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What strange mutation is this???

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I don't know what mutation is this, but it's an amazing piece of nature's creation. :heart:
Thanks, Sumita.
I don't think anyone knows. Entirely odd and different budgie wonderness.
I might get him genetically sequenced at some point.
Still trying to persuade his breeder to sell me the other 2 males with this mutation.... lol
Some of his feathers have a branching near the tip. It gives him an odd, textured appearance.
He is bonding happily with the rainbow spangle female.... so next year I hope we get some wee bubbas with silky-feather mutation.
 

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What would you guys name this mutation?

Best answer wins!

I call it silkyfeather, or silkytail, but it's all over, not just his tail (each feather has a tail, tho lol).
What's your idea?
 

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I have no idea! Good luck convincing him to sell you the others. Do you know if they breed true? If it's a recessive mutation you might have issues.

I also wanted to add that sometimes what a bird looks like isn't what he is genetically. My Winston is a single factor dominant pied genetically. Phenotypically he looks like a clearflight pied & was indeed sold to the AAer I bought him from when she had to close her aviary as a clearflight pied. Based on the parents, the original aviary has to have known... Just wanted to throw these considerations out there.
 

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I have no idea! Good luck convincing him to sell you the others. Do you know if they breed true? If it's a recessive mutation you might have issues.

I also wanted to add that sometimes what a bird looks like isn't what he is genetically. My Winston is a single factor dominant pied genetically. Phenotypically he looks like a clearflight pied & was indeed sold to the AAer I bought him from when she had to close her aviary as a clearflight pied. Based on the parents, the original aviary has to have known... Just wanted to throw these considerations out there.
Oh yeah for sure I get you.
I know the parents and grandparents of each bird, but it's still a genetic lottery!
The breeder is culling her stock after 20years. Here is a couple of her aviaries.... oh my the colours....see pic.
The feather mutation.... only these 3 have come about, the other 2 are 4 or 5 years old. So it's going to be hit and miss and unlikely to pass down. My hope is to get some progeny of the others with the mutation and eventually breed to the progeny of mine... see if the gene lottery lets me hit the jackpot!
My guy has the most obvious feather differences of the 3. The others only had it on their rumps.
Here are 2 of her aviaries. All the birds are blue-based genes. No green whatsoever (anything that looks green will be yellowface blue). She is a specialist colour breeder and a lot of other breeders go to her for breeding stock due to the good sized birds and intense vibrant colours.
It was like looking at tropical fish. Absolutely mesmerizing!
 

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How is it possible that you visited there & only came out with one budgie?! They are stunning!
Exactly! I dont think I could have restrained myself!

Oh yeah for sure I get you.
I know the parents and grandparents of each bird, but it's still a genetic lottery!
The breeder is culling her stock after 20years. Here is a couple of her aviaries.... oh my the colours....see pic.
The feather mutation.... only these 3 have come about, the other 2 are 4 or 5 years old. So it's going to be hit and miss and unlikely to pass down. My hope is to get some progeny of the others with the mutation and eventually breed to the progeny of mine... see if the gene lottery lets me hit the jackpot!
My guy has the most obvious feather differences of the 3. The others only had it on their rumps.
Here are 2 of her aviaries. All the birds are blue-based genes. No green whatsoever (anything that looks green will be yellowface blue). She is a specialist colour breeder and a lot of other breeders go to her for breeding stock due to the good sized birds and intense vibrant colours.
It was like looking at tropical fish. Absolutely mesmerizing!
Does this breeder do English, normal or both? :shy:
 

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Exactly! I dont think I could have restrained myself!


Does this breeder do English, normal or both? :shy:
Normal, Aussie but large sized, Danish size.
Lol it was so hard to come out with only the 2 I chose!
My 2 are both bigger already than my little aussie, and they are less than 12wo. Spangle girl bigger than boy, which is good cos spangles are often on the small sized.
I will definitely be going back for a few adult breeding pairs after I set up my aviary!
 

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How is it possible that you visited there & only came out with one budgie?! They are stunning!
Lol 2, but it was very, very hard to choose!!! I was there about 2hrs as she was catching and displaying birds to me and we were both budgie-nerding out haha!
 

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Normal, Aussie but large sized, Danish size.
Sorry, I am not sure what sizes those are? I only know the sizes by Bush, Normal (American/Australian), and English.
 

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Sorry, I am not sure what sizes those are? I only know the sizes by Bush, Normal (American/Australian), and English.
Danish is about English sized, but in a normal Aussie style bird. I'm not a fan of english.... they look all exaggerated and wrong :/
The danish breeders (who came up with Danish pied) seem to get really good sized birds.
The breeder I went to had a couple of English further back in the line for size. They were the biggest budgies I've ever seen lol. I'll have to weigh them when they grow a bit more!
The pic of her aviaries doesn't do justice to the colours. They are just staggeringly beautiful. Happy to give out her number for those in Oz.
 

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Some of the most UNUSUAL feathers I've seen... congrats!
Thanks, Pat. I look forward to finding some rump feathers, where it is super exaggerated.
I might get him genetically sequenced when I take all the birds for a health check.
 

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Danish is about English sized, but in a normal Aussie style bird. I'm not a fan of english.... they look all exaggerated and wrong :/
I've have mixed feelings with the English. Love mine to bits ofc, but I have to agree with you whenever I see one of the show budgies...

The pic of her aviaries doesn't do justice to the colours. They are just staggeringly beautiful. Happy to give out her number for those in Oz.
You tempt me for sure! But I probably shouldn't get another just yet (soon though), and part of me feels like I want to get a rehome or a Bush budgie. I might change my mind at some point so will keep this in mind, I can tell the colours are amazing :swoon:
 

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I've never heard of this other size. I'd love to see a side-by-side comparison of all of them, especially bush to normal/American.
 

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I've never heard of this other size. I'd love to see a side-by-side comparison of all of them, especially bush to normal/American.
For sure I'll grab a weight comparison for you guys after I put watch late night movie with teen kiddo!
 

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I've have mixed feelings with the English. Love mine to bits ofc, but I have to agree with you whenever I see one of the show budgies...



You tempt me for sure! But I probably shouldn't get another just yet (soon though), and part of me feels like I want to get a rehome or a Bush budgie. I might change my mind at some point so will keep this in mind, I can tell the colours are amazing :swoon:
I hear ya. My lil aussie is a rescue. He is finally growing out a horrible butchered wingclip, and starting to talk in English lol.
I'm hoping he will be the next YouTube talking budgie sensation lol. He has a massive singing budgie vocab and picked up my bigger parrot's calls in the first week, so seems a good prospect to teach.

Can always DM me regarding breeder. She is western suburbs of Melb, VIC.

On a funny note, I was walking my parrot in her harness a few days ago, and a lorikeet flew past. She wolf-whistled, then yelled WHATCHADOIN! at it lol. It was hilarious!
 

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My hahns/sun 'WHATCHADOIN' birb in her harness;)
I'll start a thread soon documenting her change from hahns to sun colour (she is 11mo and getting 'sunnier' by the day), since there are literally a dozen pics on the interwebs of hahns/sun crosses. It's so hard to get info on them. I took a punt and it payed off. She is the most amazing thing!

Her breeder has an unrelated breeding pair, so I'm thinking of getting a male hybrid and breeding 2nd gen. But she is my bonded companion so I'm having to weigh it up.
 

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I've have mixed feelings with the English. Love mine to bits ofc, but I have to agree with you whenever I see one of the show budgies...



You tempt me for sure! But I probably shouldn't get another just yet (soon though), and part of me feels like I want to get a rehome or a Bush budgie. I might change my mind at some point so will keep this in mind, I can tell the colours are amazing :swoon:
You should go visit for a looksee. You will just die when you see the colours! I have a lot of pics of her rainbow-type she sent, as rainbow spangles is what I wish to breed (now I wish to breed weird mutant Apollo rainbow spangles lol!) but her yellowblue and pied birds, and her fallows are AMAZING. She has bred for 20 years and is now winding down, and says yeah I just like beautiful colours and good sized birds.... so there you go. Get one while you can. And hey, hopefully I will have some pretty bubs in a year or 2. Mine will be hand tamed and harness trained, though!
 

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You should go visit for a looksee. You will just die when you see the colours! I have a lot of pics of her rainbow-type she sent, as rainbow spangles is what I wish to breed (now I wish to breed weird mutant Apollo rainbow spangles lol!) but her yellowblue and pied birds, and her fallows are AMAZING. She has bred for 20 years and is now winding down, and says yeah I just like beautiful colours and good sized birds.... so there you go. Get one while you can. And hey, hopefully I will have some pretty bubs in a year or 2. Mine will be hand tamed and harness trained, though!
I wish I could go to just look, but Melbourne is just a tad far...
While the colours are stunningly beautiful, it is not 100% important to me. I mean one of the "budgie colours I want someday" is simply a wild coloured!
 
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