Budgies dropping

[pat21]

Hey I have a quick question I’m not sure what to do.
So my budgie’s droppings have looked a bit weird for a while. They are coming out green color like normal but there seems like the urates coming out are making some kind of covering or casing around some of the poop and it makes it look like a lighter green/ grayish color on the outside and but when I pick it up the inside of it and other sides is normal green. The droppings still seem to be somewhat still watery too.
Last month she had a crop infection so the vet said that’s why her droppings might be watery but they are still some what watery still and the urates is still covering it. She has been on amphotericin b and probiotics and should be done with those next week. When I asked the vet a couple weeks ago that the droppings were still wet she said the probiotics should fix her GI track in a month or so and should be less watery. I’m thinking of going back to see if it could be something else causing her to still have watery droppings and urates covering it but I want to see if anyone else has had this experience before and what it was.

I found this post too about someone with a similar problem but I wasn’t able to get much out of it.

Budgie Poop Question...urates?

Since last night I've noticed that Bella's poops are looking a bit different. It seems like the urates are mixing with her poop rather than staying in the center. Like the typical budgie poop has the outer brownish green ring and then the urates in the center. Well with her, the urates seem to be...

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[Sunni Tiel]

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[conureluv]

What’s her diet?

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[pat21]

What’s her diet?

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Seeds with a little pellets mixed in and vegetables. My other birds are on the same diet but they don’t seem to have this issue. I’ve seen it in my other bird once a couple times but not like this bird

 

[ParrotNuts]

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[Ripshod]

I have a budgie that just drinks a lot. Consequently he has wet poops much the same as you describe. But there's nothing wrong with him.
Keep her on the probiotics for a couple of weeks after the antifungal is finished for best effect.
The other thing is antibiotics and antifungals themselves give symptoms like this, you probably won't see any improvement until a couple of weeks after treatment has finished.
If you're still worried you really should go back to your vet with this. They may have missed something, after all everything in the crop will move down into the rest of the digestive tract taking fungi and bacteria with it.

 

[pat21]

I have a budgie that just drinks a lot. Consequently he has wet poops much the same as you describe. But there's nothing wrong with him.
Keep her on the probiotics for a couple of weeks after the antifungal is finished for best effect.
The other thing is antibiotics and antifungals themselves give symptoms like this, you probably won't see any improvement until a couple of weeks after treatment has finished.
If you're still worried you really should go back to your vet with this. They may have missed something, after all everything in the crop will move down into the rest of the digestive tract taking fungi and bacteria with it.

Thank you for your help. Do you think it could be something in the Kidney where I would have to do some blood test? I looked up the symptoms and I really don’t see anything the same other than the water from the poops and I read increase in urates could come from the kidneys or am I just worrying too much ?

 

[Ripshod]

You are right to think about it, but it's bad to Google for info. Given the previous diagnosis the vet would be likely to just do gram stain from a sample or swab. Nothing as invasive as a blood sample.
But hold out until the antifungal treatment for the crop has been over a few days - things may just sort themselves out again.

 

[pat21]

You are right to think about it, but it's bad to Google for info. Given the previous diagnosis the vet would be likely to just do gram stain from a sample or swab. Nothing as invasive as a blood sample.
But hold out until the antifungal treatment for the crop has been over a few days - things may just sort themselves out again.

Oh ok thank you very much. Just for future knowledge how would I know of my bird does need a blood test check ? And could they find out if it’s a kidney problem from the gram test ?

 

[Ripshod]

A gram stain won't show kidney problems.
May I ask, other than the poops is there any reason why you're thinking kidney? How old is she?

 

[pat21]

She is almost 4 years old. I’m only worried about the kidney part because I see water from the poop and it seems like more urates than usual which is covering the green making part of it look grey.

 

[Ripshod]

Then stop worrying. The poops aren't the only symptom of kidney problems.
If there is a kidney problem the vet will find it so please trust them, they are the only people who would be able to help.
Let her finish the antifungal plus a few days for it to leave her system, continue the probiotics a few days longer and see where you are.
Antifungals and antibiotics can be really harsh on a budgie, I know they are on me.
Additional:
What colour are the urates and urine you are seeing?

 

[Azor]

Can u take a picture of the "gre-ish" part? From what i understand it's like a very thin gray layer over it?

 

[pat21]

Then stop worrying. The poops aren't the only symptom of kidney problems.
If there is a kidney problem the vet will find it so please trust them, they are the only people who would be able to help.
Let her finish the antifungal plus a few days for it to leave her system, continue the probiotics a few days longer and see where you are.
Antifungals and antibiotics can be really harsh on a budgie, I know they are on me.
Additional:
What colour are the urates and urine you are seeing?

The urine is clear but after it dries it has green ring around it but I think that’s the water taking the color out of the droppings. And the urates are white.

 

[pat21]

Can u take a picture of the "gre-ish" part? From what i understand it's like a very thin gray layer over it?

Yeah it is a thin layer of the white urate but it looks grey over the green poop. Yeah I might need a couple hours though to get a pic. I will update soon.

 

[Ripshod]

The urine is clear but after it dries it has green ring around it but I think that’s the water taking the color out of the droppings. And the urates are white.

Well, then I don't think this has anything to do with the kidneys.

 

[pat21]

Can u take a picture of the "gre-ish" part? From what i understand it's like a very thin gray layer over it?

 

[Azor]

Yeah it is a thin layer of the white urate but it looks grey over the green poop. Yeah I might need a couple hours though to get a pic. I will update soon.

Well for me that is not "normal". I would contact a vet. I don't know what it is but it sure don't seem very normal to me..

 

[Ripshod]

The poops are likely down to the antifungal she's on. Of course feel free to consult a vet but it would be highly likely they'll just say the same as me - complete the course then wait until the meds have cleared her system.

 

[Azor]

Budgie has diarrhoea / grey poo : budgies (reddit.com)
I dont think its this serous, but you should call a vet ASAP..