Parrot sneezing, gasping ? (Sad update #29)

[WillowQ]

I don’t understand this response at all. Vet should at least examine the bird or explain what his rationale is.

I think you should take your bird elsewhere.

 

[WillowQ]

Th

e vet doesn’t want to participate in anything he doesn’t care for any of this

So is he refusing to see your bird? What’s happening? Or does he just not have time right now and needs you to come back or wait?

 

[Pixiebeak]

if is an air sac torn. Wouldn’t you think this could be because of the intubation. When I came to pick her up after the biopsy she was already like this. It has gotten worse for sure.

I'm not saying it is, just a maybe possiblity.

When they do the biopsy of liver they have to go through one of the body air sac I think. Which is normal and is done, but there can always be a slight risk.. possibly???? I'm not s veterinarian.

Because parrot's have a complete trachea rings , their is always a very slight risk with sny intubation if tearing.

It's also csn be exactly as veterinarian said. That this is caused by aspiration. And everything has been done with antibiotics and nebulizer therapy. And is that he expects will resolve with time .

 

[Pixiebeak]

What st happened at vet office?

If you feel uncomfortable, if you and the vet are having trouble communicating, if you aren't feeling trust.

Then getting s second opinion is a good idea.

I've just this hour had to do this for myself with my own human doctor, and am going to see a new doctor.

 

[WillowQ]

I thought torn air sacs were obvious with skin bulges and crackling? Been a long time though.

 

[Shezbug]

I wonder if @Macawnutz can offer any help and if not then fingers crossed @Milo drops by soon

 

[Pixiebeak]

I thought torn air sacs were obvious with skin bulges and crackling? Been a long time though.

See earlier post . Described what to look for..but ya midt times I think so

 

[Milo]

Trauma caused from intubation wouldn't be a torn trachea or an air sac tear. The most common complication from intubation is tracheal irritation which is usually self limiting, less common is trauma to the trachea, causing swelling that partially obstructs the airway. That's typically something that can take 7-10 days to show up after the incident and isn't common.

She can rest reasonably comfortably and move around and preen, so that is less worrying as long as she's still eating, drinking, and has normal poops. Try to keep her from flapping and running around for now if that's what causes her to begin to breathe heavily like that, her respiratory character after flapping are the most concerning because of the open mouth breathing. The sneezing when she moves around seems more like an upper respiratory/nose issue which could be from irritated from meds getting up into the choana (the slit in the roof of her mouth) or just debris.

At this point if you feel you're running into a wall with this veterinarian a second opinion sounds like it would be good for your peace of mind. The University of Florida is an option for a larger specialty practice, and the AAV.org site can help you find another avian veterinarian. You may need to drive a distance to see a more experienced specialist, sometimes several hours. They will be able to review the records and imaging your veterinarian sends and do a physical exam to assess if the treatment plan needs changed. This process is frustrating and scary but take a deep breath as you look for other potential docs in the area. Until then keep giving the medications prescribed and doing the nebulization for your gal

 

[Karla2023]

Bird passed away. Thank you all for all your recommendations and helping with information. I am very greatefull for all the information that I got from this forum

 

[April]

Bird passed away. Thank you all for all your recommendations and helping with information. I am very greatefull for all the information that I got from this forum

Oh gosh no! Oh I can't tell you how very sorry I am. You went above and beyond and tried so hard for her. I so wish this had turned out differently for both of you.She knew how loved she was and I hope you can take comfort in that.
I'm just so sorry you're in my thoughts during this difficult time.

 

[Karla2023]

Please for the future since you guys are more knowledgeable than me. Please please advise of where can I find a reputable parrot breeder.

 

[Pixiebeak]

Oh Karla I'm in tears reading this! I'm so very sorry! This is so unfair.

You did everything you did absolutely everything for her!!! You kept fighting for her to be saved .



I'm gutted . I'm so sorry.

All my love to you

 

[Karla2023]

Oh Karla I'm in tears reading this! I'm so very sorry! This is so unfair.

You did everything you did absolutely everything for her!!! You kept fighting for her to be saved .



I'm gutted . I'm so sorry.

All my love to you

Thank you @Pixiebeak very difficult situation this was. Never expected this in a baby parrot .

 

[Karla2023]

Oh gosh no! Oh I can't tell you how very sorry I am. You went above and beyond and tried so hard for her. I so wish this had turned out differently for both of you.She knew how loved she was and I hope you can take comfort in that.
I'm just so sorry you're in my thoughts during this difficult time.

Thank you April so much. This is a great forum for people like me who knew nothing about birds.

 

[April]

Please for the future since you guys are more knowledgeable than me. Please please advise of where can I find a reputable parrot breeder.

Our own @BrianB breeds Macaws and you'd be lucky to get a baby from him,he raises them with such love and care.
Would you want another Cockatoo or perhaps another species? That can help us to be able to recommend good breeders.

 

[April]

Thank you April so much. This is a great forum for people like me who knew nothing about birds.

We all grieve with you,it was easy to see how much you love her and tried so hard to help her. You're a wonderful Parront and whenever your ready to welcome another feather baby into your heart they will have an amazing home with you.

 

[Karla2023]

We all grieve with you,it was easy to see how much you love her and tried so hard to help her. You're a wonderful Parront and whenever your ready to welcome another feather baby into your heart they will have an amazing home with you.

I would love a blue and golden macaw male or an umbrella cockatoo male. I am so sad. I spent a year saving the money to buy a parrot. I have no kids and she was like my kid that k did not have won’t ever have. Sorry guys it hard she was only one

 

[Pixiebeak]

It really is an extra layer of sadness that
she was only one ...

yiu don't have to apologize, we here , we so very much understand. They are so special and have our hearts from day one .

 

[BrianB]

How horrible. I'm so sorry this happened. I don't even know what to say about the vet. That's just terrible to dismiss a bird that is in obvious distress.

 

[Lady Jane]

May I express that I too am very sorry for your loss. Check the re home post. There was a member looking to re home 2 lovely bonded birds.

Rehoming bonded sun conure and hahn’s macaw

Hi everyone. It has been a long time since I have been on AA. Life has been… hard. For awhile. My situation has deteriorated to the point that I can no longer care for my animals and have to find homes for them. Lucy is a 10 yo sun conure. Mabel is an 8yo hahn’s macaw. Both are DNA checked...

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