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** Sad Update ** Prayers needed...Crimson Bellied Conure please....

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Danielle, I am so sorry this little one is not feeling well. Has he been tested for Chlamydia?
 

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Danielle, I am so sorry this little one is not feeling well. Has he been tested for Chlamydia?
I am not 100% sure if he was or not. I'll have to grab the AV paperwork when I go out to feed him. I don't like going out there and then coming back in without showering so I try to limit my trips out there unless it's absolutely necessary.

Honestly, I've never dealt with a sick bird except for when Sam flew away and had some type of infection but that's been 2 plus years ago so this maybe a really stupid question but what type of test needs to be ran to find Chlamydia? Is it just a regular blood test? Sorry for sounding so dumb about the tests but (knock on wood) my guys have never had anything like this.
 

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Danielle, I would have him tested for Chlamydia. Maybe even via swab (you would swab his eyes and inside his mouth). If you want, I can give you the name of a great lab. You will have results in 24 hours. Please feel free to PM me or email me.
 

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That's what the Psittacosis test was for, Danielle - Psittacosis/Chlamydiosis. The eye discharge was making me think of the same thing.. It is possible to get a false negative, but it seems unlikely that he wouldn't be shedding the disease in his current state if he had it.

There is a 24/7 veterinary hospital near Trenton that has an avian specialist available for emergencies, if it comes to that. I know that's several hours away from you, so I don't know if it's feasible, but if you weren't aware of it, I wanted to let you know. :hug8:
 

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Not to scare you, but Chlamydia is zoonotic, meaning you can catch it. You can also give it to your birds and the treatment is a 45 day process of injections which is not pleasant. It is merely a bacteria, but can be passed from bird to human. The test shouldn't cost that much, along with a $4.95 flat rate priority mail envelope. Total would probably be no more than about $40.00 - if that.
 

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Not to scare you, but Chlamydia is zoonotic, meaning you can catch it. You can also give it to your birds and the treatment is a 45 day process of injections which is not pleasant. It is merely a bacteria, but can be passed from bird to human. The test shouldn't cost that much, along with a $4.95 flat rate priority mail envelope. Total would probably be no more than about $40.00 - if that.
Oh my! So am I wrong on thinking that since Lindsay said Pssittacosis/Chlamydia is the same test and he came back negative for Pssittacosis, that he doesn't have Chlamydia?

It's confusing because there are NO other problems at all with him - no discharge from his nares and eyes, no crust anywhere and his eyes aren't swollen. I would think there would be some sign of something?
 

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Oh my! So am I wrong on thinking that since Lindsay said Pssittacosis/Chlamydia is the same test and he came back negative for Pssittacosis, that he doesn't have Chlamydia?

It's confusing because there are NO other problems at all with him - no discharge from his nares and eyes, no crust anywhere and his eyes aren't swollen. I would think there would be some sign of something?
Sorry! I didn't see your post that he was negative for Psittacosis. Yes, it is the same thing. When was he tested?
 

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Sorry! I didn't see your post that he was negative for Psittacosis. Yes, it is the same thing. When was he tested?
Phewww, I was worried there for a minute =] He was tested last Saturday/Sunday (can't remember exactly) right before he came to me. I'm getting ready to go give him his last feeding so I'll grab the paperwork.
 

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Sorry! I have a habit of responding to posts without reading the entire thread. :( Glad he was negative!

How is his weight? Has he lost any? (Apologies in advance if that was already mentioned).

Does he open his eyes at all?

Have you tried a saline wash without wiping (so as not to scratch his cornea). That may be a possibility, too if he is otherwise appearing totally healthy, active and not puffy or losing weight.
 
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That's what the Psittacosis test was for, Danielle - Psittacosis/Chlamydiosis. The eye discharge was making me think of the same thing.. It is possible to get a false negative, but it seems unlikely that he wouldn't be shedding the disease in his current state if he had it.

There is a 24/7 veterinary hospital near Trenton that has an avian specialist available for emergencies, if it comes to that. I know that's several hours away from you, so I don't know if it's feasible, but if you weren't aware of it, I wanted to let you know. :hug8:
Thanks Lindsay :hug8: My AV is a 24/7 Emergency vet also which is 20 minutes from us. I don't think it will come down to that but its always good to have options on hand if it happen to. Thanks again!
 

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Sorry! I have a habit of responding to posts without reading the entire thread. :( Glad he was negative!

How is his weight? Has he lost any? (Apologies in advance if that was already mentioned).

Does he open his eyes at all?

Have you tried a saline wash without wiping (so as not to scratch his cornea). That may be a possibility, too if he is otherwise appearing totally healthy, active and not puffy or losing weight.
No need to be sorry. I do the same thing! Honestly I haven't weighted him because I was afraid to use anything that has to come back into my bird room when I didn't have a cleaner that was strong enough to kill any possible bacteria etc. I just got F10 from you so I'll take the scale out tonight and weight him and keep a record now. I can tell from just feeling his keel when he came to me and feeling it now that he has put some weight on. He was on an all seed, no fresh food diet so I'm sure lack of nutrition isn't helping his situation any :(

My mom said she saw his one eye open today with out the warm cloth but I haven't seen it yet. Other then his eyes, he is very active, not fluffy and seems to be gaining weight. I wasn't sure if I could use anything in his eyes so it's good to know I can use saline. I'll grab some tomorrow an hope like heck that works!
 
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Ok guys, we need lots and lots of prayers and positive energy for little Macke. I am at my AV with him now and my AV believes he has some type of neurological problem :( He was concerned about his eyes since he sees no problem with them, his urates are a cream color, he has been drooping his wings and doesn't have the best standing ability. I didn't really notice any problems with his standing/walking until the doctor pointed it out. He's also under weight despite me hand feeding him 3 times a day. He is the same exact weight he was 10 days ago when the other doctor diagnosed him with a URI. He's 64 grams when he should be about in the range of 79-85 grams. He should've at least gained some weight with the formula. We are running a CBC and another test (can't remember right now) to check for liver and kidney problems and that's just the beginning :( Please pray that we find out what's going on with him. His Mom is sooooooo upset and my heart is breaking for Macke and his Mom.
 

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Poor little one,sending more prayers for him :sadhug:
 

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Saying prayers they find out what is wrong very soon. :sadhug2:
 

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Many prayers coming your way that they find out wha'ts going on and he gets better real soon.:hug8::heart:
 

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OK, I'm going to throw something out to you ONLY because I had a couple of Tiels over the years had it happen to them...You said he was on a seed diet before he came to you...it could be very possible that he has gotten a seed up in the cavity behind the eye...I have NO idea of how it travels BUT both birds started with eye problems and then a hard "bump" started like a pimple between the nare/eye....BOTH times it was a SEED coming out through the skin as an infection....one of my birds ended up with nerve damage to the eye but lived a good 10 years....MANY HEALING thoughts/energy coming his way!:hug8:
 

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If you are at the vet ask about changing the antibiotic to doxycycline, this would be a choice should he have Chlamydia. Some times Chlamydia does not show in tests because of intermittent shedding.
 
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