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R.I.P. Lydia…

BabyBirdMa

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Why can’t I find a picture of her? Why did I have to even lose her? Why do I have to keep making these posts?! I’m so sick of this! The vet said she would be fine after Anibiotics! Why did I have to find her this morning?! Why does God want me to suffer and give up on life?! I was promised birds have long lifespans…Why do they keep getting tumors?! She was a white parakeet with blue spots. I can’t find my pictures. I guess she really is gone. I HATE MY LIFE!
 

BabyBirdMa

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I've heard that many Budgies are prone to tumors, it's not just you. I'm so so sorry for your loss. Don't ever give up. I wish you the best :sorrow:
Thank you, I guess I’m just so tired of having my heart ripped out. I just feel so weak, so empty. I’ve lost so much these past, two years so quickly. I almost feel like losing the ones I love and failing at any job I try to do defines me now.
 

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I am very sorry for your loss. Sadly, budgies tend not to have long life spans. But try to think of all the joy you have her while you had her.
 
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Myself lost Cloudy to cancer . And that's when I found out from my vet that nearly ever budgie over 5 has cancer someplace .

I'm so sorry for your loss. It can start seeming overwhelming. It can feel like our hearts can only take so much . Without doubt her life counted and she was loved !

Hugs to you and your flock
 

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I am so sorry for your loss, although she may no be physically here she will be in the clouds looking down at her wonderful owner. Don’t be sad, enjoy what you had. :sorrow:
 

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I am sorry for your loss.
 

BabyBirdMa

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Myself lost Cloudy to cancer . And that's when I found out from my vet that nearly ever budgie over 5 has cancer someplace .

I'm so sorry for your loss. It can start seeming overwhelming. It can feel like our hearts can only take so much . Without doubt her life counted and she was loved !

Hugs to you and your flock
She wasn’t a pet, she was my daughter. I love all of my birds as if I gave birth to them myself, even if they were adopted. If that is true, about budgies over five having cancer, that’s horrible and unfair.
 

BabyBirdMa

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I am so sorry for your loss, although she may no be physically here she will be in the clouds looking down at her wonderful owner. Don’t be sad, enjoy what you had. :sorrow:
I know she’s with her brothers now and my grandmother but it’s still hard not to be sad. It’s hard not to miss her. Her death was such a shock.
 

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I’m very sorry.


And that's when I found out from my vet that nearly ever budgie over 5 has cancer someplace .
That’s a sobering statistic. Winston will be 6 early next year. Marzipan is a minimum of 5 & has cancer. :(
 
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I’m very sorry.




That’s a sobering statistic. Winston will be 6 early next year. Marzipan is a minimum of 5 & has cancer. :(
Cloudy n clear lived to nine , my vet believe clear had cancer as well .
But while she said majority did, it often times was just found in cellular level and wasn't always what led to them passing.

We just got love them so much every day we have .
 

BabyBirdMa

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Cloudy n clear lived to nine , my vet believe clear had cancer as well .
But while she said majority did, it often times was just found in cellular level and wasn't always what led to them passing.

We just got love them so much every day we have .
Why do they have to just drop dead so suddenly, without any warning? Why do I have to keep finding them like that? It feels like my heart gets ripped out every time.
 

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So sorry for your loss of Lydia.
 

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I am so very sorry for your loss! I hope you won't take your losses as some sort of punishment. Because it's not. It's a consequence of having loved. Cold comfort at the moment, I know, but having loved is a good thing.

Your sweet Lydia was well-loved. She knew that and will keep an eye on you until you meet again!
 

BabyBirdMa

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I am so very sorry for your loss! I hope you won't take your losses as some sort of punishment. Because it's not. It's a consequence of having loved. Cold comfort at the moment, I know, but having loved is a good thing.

Your sweet Lydia was well-loved. She knew that and will keep an eye on you until you meet again!
Thank you I really needed to hear that. :sadhug:
 
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Why do they have to just drop dead so suddenly, without any warning? Why do I have to keep finding them like that? It feels like my heart gets ripped out every time.
It's something I do wish wasn't the case !! It's absolutely hardwired into them to hide illness .

This was to protect them from being targeted by predators and hopefully give them time to recover. It's also from being part of a flock , or in other animals a herd or society group. They evict or kill sick or those with abnormal behavior, this can save a group from the ravages of a communicable disease , sacrifice the one for the many.

I don't know if continued domestication will have an effect on that or not . Probably not much , as their have been studies that show dogs and cats will hide the extent of pain they are in , until unobserved. Like in a veterinarian setting, post surgery. In college they showed a video , and monitoring equipment like heart rate and blood pressure, to show the changes when people are out of the room . And we with dogs and cats know they are willing to show pain , but they are evidently still masking the extent .

I have witnessed herd animals, like hoof stock and horses turn on acuyely ill members and drive off or kill . Tho often I'll ones will seperate themselves. The horse killed had EEE on necropsy, tho that disease isn't spread horse to horse , they don't know that , and causes neurological issues making the horse behave weird. In hoof stock, we had to keep separate after immobilization for proceedure untill fully reversed or herd members would turn in them and try and kill them .

So our birdies can't choose , it's hardwired. If the health conditions is something that shows symptoms at all we should take very seriously.

Our only few tools , and they aren't foolproof at all, is to regularly monitor weight, monitor poops, monitor food intake , monitor activity and vocalizations. Tho I have experienced my self a bird fake eating, fake play only to pass hours later from a severe sinus infection. Anything off at all take seriously and seek advice from your established avian veterinarian. Acting quick saves lives . Be happy if the vet says it's just a minor infection or something, because treating quickly saves them before it becomes overwhelming and before they have exhausted their body resources. A bird not eating or not moving is a same day emergency, it's not a wait and see , either it's something bad and acute, or something that has been going on for awhile and they can not longer mask .

Lastly, birds do not have to go through stages of symptoms, they do not have to show being a little off , and then worse fluffed not eating not moving, they often go from zero to dead . As so many of us have experienced. So if you are lucky enough your birds show any symptoms, take it very seriously.

The above isn't directed at you bird momma!! It's for all of us who read this . For all of those who have never experienced this before, who didn't know birds hardwired behavior to mask health issues.

We have our tools , of weight checks, poop checks, food and behavior monitoring, but they are not foolproof, we will still have cases of sudden death. But they will help save some
 

BabyBirdMa

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It's something I do wish wasn't the case !! It's absolutely hardwired into them to hide illness .

This was to protect them from being targeted by predators and hopefully give them time to recover. It's also from being part of a flock , or in other animals a herd or society group. They evict or kill sick or those with abnormal behavior, this can save a group from the ravages of a communicable disease , sacrifice the one for the many.

I don't know if continued domestication will have an effect on that or not . Probably not much , as their have been studies that show dogs and cats will hide the extent of pain they are in , until unobserved. Like in a veterinarian setting, post surgery. In college they showed a video , and monitoring equipment like heart rate and blood pressure, to show the changes when people are out of the room . And we with dogs and cats know they are willing to show pain , but they are evidently still masking the extent .

I have witnessed herd animals, like hoof stock and horses turn on acuyely ill members and drive off or kill . Tho often I'll ones will seperate themselves. The horse killed had EEE on necropsy, tho that disease isn't spread horse to horse , they don't know that , and causes neurological issues making the horse behave weird. In hoof stock, we had to keep separate after immobilization for proceedure untill fully reversed or herd members would turn in them and try and kill them .

So our birdies can't choose , it's hardwired. If the health conditions is something that shows symptoms at all we should take very seriously.

Our only few tools , and they aren't foolproof at all, is to regularly monitor weight, monitor poops, monitor food intake , monitor activity and vocalizations. Tho I have experienced my self a bird fake eating, fake play only to pass hours later from a severe sinus infection. Anything off at all take seriously and seek advice from your established avian veterinarian. Acting quick saves lives . Be happy if the vet says it's just a minor infection or something, because treating quickly saves them before it becomes overwhelming and before they have exhausted their body resources. A bird not eating or not moving is a same day emergency, it's not a wait and see , either it's something bad and acute, or something that has been going on for awhile and they can not longer mask .

Lastly, birds do not have to go through stages of symptoms, they do not have to show being a little off , and then worse fluffed not eating not moving, they often go from zero to dead . As so many of us have experienced. So if you are lucky enough your birds show any symptoms, take it very seriously.

The above isn't directed at you bird momma!! It's for all of us who read this . For all of those who have never experienced this before, who didn't know birds hardwired behavior to mask health issues.

We have our tools , of weight checks, poop checks, food and behavior monitoring, but they are not foolproof, we will still have cases of sudden death. But they will help save some
I wish they trusted me enough to be honest with me. Do they still really think after all this time, I would harm them in any way if they were sick? What sucks is that sometimes not even that helps. With Gus, he was fine the night before then just gone that morning, no warning. Heisinbird was acting lethargic so we took him to the vet. They found a tumor but claimed they couldn’t remove it. We got second and third opinions and they all said the same: “It was too big, too close to his kidneys and he was too small to operate on. I was forced to watch him die. Lydia, she had a swollen abdomen and was making this sniffing sound. We got her help immediately and I really thought she would be okay but a week after the antibiotics, she was gone too.
 

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Marzipan’s tumour is also inoperable. I’m sorry. Medical science doesn’t have the final say; Mother Nature does & we’ve made it worse for budgies through inbreeding.

Yes, they trust you as much as their instincts will let them. It’s not completely, but it’s still beautiful & worthwhile.

I would focus on the good times. These wee birds were so very loved; that’s a rare gift for any living thing. You gave them that gift. Part of loving is learning to let go, to hurt, to grieve & to love again. It’s what makes life worth living, as strange as that sounds.

I’m not sure what your flock is like right now, but perhaps you’d be happier with a longer lived species in future. Many of them are much noisier, but I’ve heard canaries are long lived & they’re not. Perhaps a lovebird might be the way to go.
 
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