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For Those Who Want to Inform Others About 'THAT VENDOR"

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This is MM on Facebook replying to someone saying they hope she gets a little more business

"a little??? My phone hasn't stopped ringing! And for the first time in months I'm not afraid to answer it. You are all just amazing."

It sounds like to me her business was on the ropes before Shannon put wind back in her sails. :bash: I can't believe people buy all her victim BS. I get that there are legitimate trolls out there, but enough to bring down this woman's business? Obviously it couldn't because she sells a bad product right? :rolleyes::cautious: Urg!! Sadly people are buying her sob story and I'm afraid until it happens to them, sick and dying birds, they'll continue to buy whatever crap she spews.
 

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I was on Facebook for something and somehow ended up on Beaks and Feathers rescue and saw this. I makes me very sad that someone who lost 11 bird to an unknown something would endorse this company without research and only hearsay. If any of you want to inform her of your personal experiences and show her some evidence, I say go ahead.

I responded to her rant and she is stubbornly sticking by Martha - even though she has never fed any of her foods.

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Drama Alert:

It’s come to my attention that there’s a group of people on the internet using my name and my rescue’s name to tear down a small business. I’m going first explain to you the situation, and then I’m going to tell you why you should go support that small business right this minute.

And then I’m going to lay into all you GODDAMN bird people for being so evil to each other, again, and I’m going to make an excellent case for why you should get your actual shizz together and support and love one another, for the love of all that’s holy.
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Apparently, some people had some beef with Unapproved Vendor’s Dailies, a small birdfood maker out of Illinois. The complaint was that birds were getting sick after eating the food. A gal called me about this because of what happened here with Zupreem, and the hub-bub online about it, to ask for how to go about testing.

I told her the same thing I’ll tell anyone:

If you suspect a food is causing illness and/or death, get it documented. Create a paper trail. Start with your vet. Get a diagnosis or a necropsy, and if you go with necropsy because of death, go for histopathology with toxicology.

You are looking for a needle in a haystack. It will be very difficult to prove, if you can at all. For us, after 2 batches of food were tied to the deaths of a whole lot of birds across the US, the FDA came in as inconclusive for us all. They couldn’t prove it was, they couldn’t prove it wasn’t.

So that’s what I told the gal on the phone when she called to ask. Get yourself a paper trail, and then start with the Department of Agriculture to test the food against your vet’s diagnosis or the histo.

At this time, as far as I’m aware, there have been no necropsies. There have been no diagnoses, there have been zero things submitted to the food maker or the Dept. of Ag, or anyone else about Unapproved Vendor’s Dailies causing issue.

What has become quite apparent though, is that there’s personal beef happening. And, that has no place in a scientific investigation. Personal beef isn’t poisonous to birds.

And it sure the HE double hockey sticks doesn’t have anything to do with the very real deaths of 11 birds here at this rescue on January 1, 2018.

I am angry. I’m actually VERY angry that my name is being used to harm another human being.

I’ve never used food from Unapproved Vendor’s Dailies. Therefore, I can’t endorse it, nor can I tear it down. I’ve seen no evidence whatsoever, not even hearsay of birds dying like in our situation (where we got multiple calls/day until those two batches of that food were finally gone off shelves in stores, and the Dept of Ag was regularly collecting dead bodies after those bodies ate that food).

What I can say is that after talking with Marsha over at Unapproved Vendor’s Dailies for an hour this morning, I am fairly confident that if something went awry, or there was a suspicion of issue with a batch of her food, she would absolutely take responsibility for that quickly because she doesn’t want your animals dying any more than you do. It’s not like she had 7 tons of this stuff out. She makes tiny batches and is easily able to track what went where, so if she needed to do a recall, it would be as simple as emailing and calling a small group of people.

Which leads us to the next part of this – the person who called me and is posting my name on behalf of this witch hunt – isn’t even one of her clients. That person has never bought any food from her or anything. She’s leaving Yelp and Google reviews and reached out to the BBB to complain about food her animals have not even consumed. I know this to be true as both Yelp and BBB removed the review.

Let me clue you guys in on a little secret: Marsha and her husband just quit their jobs to really ramp up this business. They just signed a 2 year lease on their building to make this business the American Dream.

And because a few people are complaining with no bodies, no diagnoses, vet records – literally nothing – they’re about to lose it all.

Marsha is going to send me a box of food to review. And I’m going to feed it. I’ll do a video review.

I am sick to my stomach that a new small business could fail and my name could be tied to it in any way.

I DO NOT support tearing down a company for no reason.

As such – I ask that you support them. Help build them back up. I’ll get that review as soon as we receive the food. In the meantime, go show her your support.

And to you bird people, listen up:

You have GOT to stop tearing each other apart. You have to. I’ve never met such a giant group of people so eager to rip each other to shreds. Last year, it was me you were doing it to. You thought I was being dramatic because I (not you, ME) lost 11 birds in one night. A rescue east lost 5. One south lost 8. There were birds peppered across the US.

Want a little secret? Ready? After the FDA came back as inconclusive, I live trapped 3 sets of mice. In one I fed the Higgins from that bag in my freezer. Mice were still alive the next morning. In one I fed the LeFeber’s, and those mice were alive the next morning. The one with the Zupreem? All mice were dead in that live trap the next morning.

You read that right – I used mice lives, because I needed to know for certain. I wasn’t wrong. I can’t prove it with a definitive toxin, and neither could the FDA. Maybe it’s a big fat coincidence? No? (Shrugs) Doesn’t matter now because there’s nothing to do about it. It was never about money, it was always about getting that shizz off the shelves, and now it’s expired and gone, so it is what it is.

You people tore me apart online, you gave death threats, you urged me to kill myself, you invited people into my home to steal animals to get them safe, you called my family bird murderers and suggested that I killed my birds for some mythical payout. All because you had some weird brand loyalty for something we had a paper trail on.

And now, now you’re doing it in opposite to a gal who is just trying with all her might to live the American dream.

STOP IT.

We all have the same common goal, which is to take care of these birds to the very best of our abilities. If you’re forcing people out of the hobby because you need to feel superior and powerful, it hurts birds in the end.

Go order up some Unapproved Vendor’s Dailies, and have a great day.
I need to apologize to all of you. I'm the person she is talking about that called her. She was down the same road year ago. I thought her insight would useful. Apparently she got sucked into MM web of deceit and lies. Here's the most pathetic thing of all this, Shannon is the one asked repeat ASKED for the information on WD & MM. I'm so angry right now I can't even explain how fli--ing mad I am at birds and beaks rescue.
I am truly sorry.
 

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This is MM on Facebook replying to someone saying they hope she gets a little more business

"a little??? My phone hasn't stopped ringing! And for the first time in months I'm not afraid to answer it. You are all just amazing."

It sounds like to me her business was on the ropes before Shannon put wind back in her sails. :bash: I can't believe people buy all her victim BS. I get that there are legitimate trolls out there, but enough to bring down this woman's business? Obviously it couldn't because she sells a bad product right? :rolleyes::cautious: Urg!! Sadly people are buying her sob story and I'm afraid until it happens to them, sick and dying birds, they'll continue to buy whatever crap she spews.
Thats okay, Judith Richmond is now going after Shannon on the FB Parrot Poop. So now the 10K following there can see what's been posted about MM and her scamming, criminal history.
 
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I need to apologize to all of you. I'm the person she is talking about that called her. She was down the same road year ago. I thought her insight would useful. Apparently she got sucked into MM web of deceit and lies. Here's the most pathetic thing of all this, Shannon is the one asked repeat ASKED for the information on WD & MM. I'm so angry right now I can't even explain how fli--ing mad I am at birds and beaks rescue.
I am truly sorry.
No worries, more exposure now let the internet light up read above!^
 

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Thats okay, Judith Richmond is now going after Shannon on the FB Parrot Posse. So now the 10K following there can see the truth I posted about MM and her scamming, criminal history.
Super I feel horrible I got suckered by B & B rescue
 

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Thats okay, Judith Richmond is now going after Shannon on the FB Parrot Posse. So now the 10K following there can see the truth I posted about MM and her scamming, criminal history.
Oh thank god!! Thanks for letting me know :hug8:
 

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Has anyone tried to show Shannon the link to the big forum post? It seems like she knows about us, and what's happened here but if she truly read all the bad things that have happened to customers, and their birds, I would hope that she wouldn't be doing this. I'm probably just gullible though and want to think people actually look into stuff before spouting off on a public forum.
 

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Copy/paste into google translate French to english
 

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@hrafn ....What does this say please? Or do I not want to know? lol
The literal translation is more or less "her forehead goes all the way around her head" but it basically means wow, she has some nerve.

Sometimes English just doesn't quite convey my feelings, LOL
 
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I´m surprised that conducting home experiments and feeding compromised foods to live mice isn´t illegal.... Is that not animal cruelty?
What if I took a rotten steak and fed it to puppies to ¨see what happens¨...

It does not sit right with me.

As for the WD situation, she should have just posted a statement to clarify that she had not had any experiences with WD and to please not reference her sanctuary. It isn´t hard.
 

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How did she know what the mice had eaten prior to being caught? Her experiment is so flawed. And to curse bird lovers! I have never come across as many wonderful, loving people, as I have here on AA.
Apparently she used live trap to catch three mice and then fed each one a different food. And waited to see what happened :(

I totally agree with you about cursing bird communities, each community is different but some of the nicest people I know are bird people :)
 

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As for the WD situation, she should have just posted a statement to clarify that she had not had any experiences with WD and to please not reference her sanctuary. It isn´t hard.

She doesn’t get the drama factor out of just posting that.
 

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She doesn’t get the drama factor out of just posting that.
That´s incredibly sad.
People who run rescues and shelters literally have those animals lives in their hands. Something like this could turn people off visiting her rescue and helping those birds :(

An animal rescue centre killing mice? Just no.
 

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She’s leaving Yelp and Google reviews and reached out to the BBB to complain about food her animals have not even consumed. I know this to be true as both Yelp and BBB removed the review
She (Shannon) better get her ducks in row, I did call BBB but didn't leave any reviews on yelp or Google. No I didn't buy of that vendor food, but I sure in heck can research even on phone.
She called me not the other way around.
I don't FB and if did I would be calling her out. Her story is bas a$$ward. I'm so upset that when she was in deep doo doo, I stood up here (AA) for her. What piece of work.
 
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