Conure and budgies

[Ali]

Hello all,

We will be building a large outdoor aviary soon and have been considering stocking arrangments (as some if you may already know)!

I have just come across some conures, but I am not sure on exact species, but I was wondering if I could keep my budgies with them.

The aviary will be about:

4 metres wide by 2 metres deep by 2.4 metres tall

Thank you for any help you can give (it was just a thought) I have attached an image of the bird so the species can be identified.

Ali

 

[Ali]

@webchirp, any ideas?

 

[tka]

Those are Green Cheeked Conures - perhaps pineapple mutations.

 

[Ali]

Thank you!!
Do you think that they could be kept with budgies? (And maybe some finches)

Ali

 

[taxidermynerd]

No type of conure could be housed with a budgie. Conures are simply too big, the beak size difference could harm or even kill a budgie if the conure decides to react. Even more so with finches. If you house them together you will end up with dead budgies or finches.

 

[Ali]

Ok thanks.

 

[Ali]

I know you have all said it is impossible to keep them all together, but I have just found this...

Which shows them with javas, diamond doves and many more. This is a very large aviary that they are in, but they seem to be peaceful among the other birds.

 

[Monaco]

I think it would require an enormous space to have enough escape options, and it would still be big risk for every smaller bird.

 

[Ali]

That's a shame. Are there any other birds that could coexist with the conures? Anymore hookbills? And what about mixing types of conure?

Ali

 

[Ali]

@ConureMom! @Monaco ?

 

[Ali]

I have read that different conure species can be kept together. First of all, is this true?
And second, what types would be best together and is there anything else (Caiques, pionus, or any others?)?

 

[JLcribber]

I know you have all said it is impossible to keep them all together, but I have just found this...
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Which shows them with javas, diamond doves and many more. This is a very large aviary that they are in, but they seem to be peaceful among the other birds.

It doesn't matter what you found. You know nothing about this situation and how it evolved. Yes its possible for almost any species to co exist with a lot of time, effort, skill and an adapted environment. Just by the question asked it's apparent your skill level is low.

Throwing them together into an aviary without all the other stuff is a tragedy waiting to happen.

 

[Ali]

It doesn't matter what you found. You know nothing about this situation and how it evolved. Yes its possible for almost any species to co exist with a lot of time, effort, skill and an adapted environment. Just by the question asked it's apparent your skill level is low.

Throwing them together into an aviary without all the other stuff is a tragedy waiting to happen.

@JLcribber My skill level may be low thank you, but if it was high, I wouldn't be here asking questions, would I? I came here to learn and gain knowledge of my birds and any other I may get in the future and keep them happy and healthy. It was just a query and there was no intention of doing anything definetly. I would also like to point out that I do care for my birds very much, and would never "throw'em together in and avairy" unless I was sure they would be safe. As for what I found, don't complain to me, complain to the ones who show it online!!

Thank you very much.

 

[tka]

Honestly, don't mix hookbill species unless you have tons of space and a lot of experience. I can see you get spiky and defensive in response to @JLcribber, but he knows what he's talking about and has managed to keep large cockatoos and cockatiels by very, very carefully managing the space they're in, having physical barriers in place, and having separate out of cage times. He knows exactly how badly a parrot can injure another parrot. He's done the work to minimise that happening to any of his birds. It takes huge amount of skill which you simply don't have yet. The fact that you don't (yet) have experience is just a fact. It's not a slight or an insult.

Caiques are notorious for aggression, especially aggression directed at other birds. This is what @Irishj9, an experienced caique keeper and breeder, has to say: Caique & bird aggression?

Pionus have a reputation for gentleness, but mine really, really wanted to pick a fight with a CAG she was boarding with and would have tried to fight him had she been in the same space. She could easily injure or even kill a smaller bird, even by accident.

A dove, budgie and finch aviary will be more than enough to keep you on your toes.

 

[Ali]

Ok, thank you very much. As i have mentioned multiple times, it was just an idea! It's such as shame as they are lovely birds.

 

[tka]

It's very important that you select species that will be compatible with each other and are as compatible as any wild animal can be with you and your lifestyle.

I think every parrot fan has a list of species that they admire from afar but know that they could never keep. Thinking that a bird is beautiful or smart or interesting or lovely is not enough reason to get one: it's a case of whether you can offer it (and your other birds) a safe, happy, fulfilling environment. I think Timmeh Greys are fascinating; however, I also know that powder down will be fatal to my pionus. I cannot put her life at risk because I want something. So TAGs are off my list, but I can still enjoy other people's birds through the forum!

 

[webchirp]

Having had cheeks who were raised in an aviary setting (Akron rescue cheeks) and those that have not...the Akron cheeks did well in a flight together but there were several that were beat up and had to be removed. Make sure you have space for those situations. My other cheeks from different situations could be out if I remove the troublemakers and boys. So that’s half the flock that would not be able to be out unattended.

 

[Ali]

Could I keep them in separate aviaries but there is only one bit of mesh between them, or would I have to do double layers??I

Ali

 

[JLcribber]

A single barrier works just fine.

 

[Ali]

Also, what size would an aviary need to be for the 3 green cheeks I attached in the original post? Would 6ft by 4ft work? (I can't find much information online and I wouldn't want to cram them in to a too smaller space)