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Yellowhead Amazon molting question

melissasparrots

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When I looked at the first picture, I thought it looked like a double yellow head baby. Although a lightly marked one. The last picture does slightly resemble some yellow napes. I still think it's probably a double yellow head. I guess his owner will just have to wait and see how he develops. It's also possible that he's a cross of subspecies or even has a yellow nape grandparent throwing off the colors a little bit. Either way, it looks like a happy bird.

@DClark molting crazy numbers of feathers in a short period of time is somewhat normal. Each molt can be different with some heavier and some lighter. Although the juvenile molt tends to be a heavier one and sometimes produces some transient yellow feathers that disappear in subsequent molts. That is my experience with napes anyway. A lot of true yellow napes will start getting some yellow tipped feathers on their nape with the first molt.
 

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When I looked at the first picture, I thought it looked like a double yellow head baby. Although a lightly marked one. The last picture does slightly resemble some yellow napes. I still think it's probably a double yellow head. I guess his owner will just have to wait and see how he develops. It's also possible that he's a cross of subspecies or even has a yellow nape grandparent throwing off the colors a little bit. Either way, it looks like a happy bird.

@DClark molting crazy numbers of feathers in a short period of time is somewhat normal. Each molt can be different with some heavier and some lighter. Although the juvenile molt tends to be a heavier one and sometimes produces some transient yellow feathers that disappear in subsequent molts. That is my experience with napes anyway. A lot of true yellow napes will start getting some yellow tipped feathers on their nape with the first molt.
Thank you for the reply !
 

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That close up picture suggests a parvipes yellow nape. That bird has some black bristles on its nares. DYAs do not. Yellow crowned amazons do not have horn-colored beaks. I don't think it's a Panama, either. I'd like to know who the breeder is and see a picture of the parent birds. @melissasparrots ???
great catch..yes I will be curious to see pics of the parents. hard to tell with juveniles
 

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Hey, I know it's been a while but wanted to respond to the above questions. I wasn't able to get pictures of the parents. Only information I have is that it's a Yellowhead Amazon. When coming back to this post and seeing the pics I posted back then, he has changed a bit since that last molt. He has had some yellow come in covering his eyes and around his beak. Also has a decent amount of yellow on his legs now. Will post some pictures. That last molt seemed like like it lasted forever lol... Now he appears to be molting again. Which I guess is normal ? It seems to be lighter than the last. Good news is almost all the clipped flights have fallen out now, so I can work on flight training soon.
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Just wanted to post some updated pics on here. Loki is fully flighted now and is a handful, to say the least. He loves to get into everything, ESPECIALLY if he realizes that it's a place we don't want him to be. It's pretty crazy to looking back to the pictures when I brought him home verses how he looks now. On a day to day basis, you don't really notice much change, until you start looking through pics. 20241116_145253.jpg 20241116_145341.jpg
 
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Loki is adorable!
 

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Loki is beautiful.
As regards the discussion of the species had in the beginning of the thread, all that yellow in the head leads to Double Yellow Head (A. oratrix). However, Even with all that yellow it could still be a Yellow Crested (A. ochrocephala) but from the sub-species xantholaema (I believe the English name is Marajó amazon parrot) that end up with lots of yellow below the eyeline and yellow legs.
I don´t know how are the prices in your area, but in mine the chances of getting a Marajó YC (A.o. xantholaema) when aiming for a nominal YC (A.o. ochrocephala) are close to none, because the former costs 3x more and is rarely seen in the trade,
 
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