Tyler has prolapsed his cloaca again

[Flyte]

Hi guys.. I'm waiting for cornell to call back. this is the third time now.. I don't want to put him through any more torture and I am not even going to consider the invasive surgery they sometimes try for this.. I'm assuming we are going to have to get him put down. He is at my brothers house... we had adjusted his food according to what the vet told me and what I learned aout what could cause this and it still happened again.. he is 33-34 years old.. I love him tons but this is a very painful thing for him and I really don't know what to do. I'd love to be able to just keep patching him up but as someone who has been through a crap load of surgeries myself.. I know it's not a fun life. This would be a whole nother round of major antibiotics.. surgery.. anesthesia at least twice, again.. I just don't know. And of course the place we brought him to last time doesn't have an avian vet available and neither does the place I brought my macaw.. so we are going to have to hit the road to Cornell. I haven't been there since they gave me the wrong meds that almost killed Madison.. which I know was an accident but made me leary.

What do you guys think? He is a great, wonderful, loving, cursing little bundle but he had a hard life before he came to us and he isn't in the best of shape as it is.. with his poor legs and feet hurt so badly.. he walks on them balled up now, even with the glucosamine and heat perch and soft ramps to walk on. This SUCKS!!!

- Sarah

 

[Birdiemarie]

Oh Sarah, I'm so sorry. I have found in similar situations talking to the doctors and expressing my concerns and listening to their input always helped me know what to do. Whatever you decide has my support. I'm so sorry.

 

[rikkitikki]

so sorry you and he are going through this. I wish I had some good advice to give, but I don't really know what to say other than I will keep Tyler in my thoughts and I think you will know what to do once you get to talk to the vet.

 

[Birdbabe]

Im sorry, Im sure you will look into your heart and do whats right for him. I adopted my best friends pigeon after she passed away, and that poor bird had the same problem. Though I loved her, I made that decision coz it wasnt fair for her to live in pain.

 

[JLcribber]

To just exist with pain with no real quality of life is not the way I want to live. I would hope that should it come to that, somebody who loves me has the courage and incredible compassion to help me move on.

You have my deepest sympathy in this very trying time. Only you will know what to do.

 

[expressmailtome]

I am very sorry for all that you are both going through. In the end only you know what is best.

Matt

 

[Anne & Gang]

Sarah, it is a decision only you can make...if you decide to let him go, please be with him at the end...many hugs and prayers on the way to you both.

 

[Flyte]

Thanks for the support guys, we are on our way now... talk to you later..

- Sarah

 

[itzmered]

 

[Bridgette]

I'm so sorry you are facing this decision. Many hugs

 

[Gen120]

aw, I'm so sorry I'm praying and you have my support to whatever you decide. I know you'll decide what's best for Tyler-

 

[Birdasaurus]

I'm so incredibly sorry that you have to make this choice Look in his eyes...if that spark isn't there anymore he's telling you what you need to do. We're here for you no matter what

 

[Annamacaw]

 

[ncGreyBirdLady]

 

[Paula]

What a terribly difficult situation, and what a heart-wrenching decision to have to make. You have my sincere sympathies.

 

[kcbee]

I'm so sorry you're going through this. Whatever decision you make is the right one. We support you 100%.

 

[April]

 

[Flyte]

Well we are going to give it one more try. Tyler is spending the night at Cornell, where he will see the avian specialists tomorrow.
So far they should be cleaning him up, pushing it back up inside and sewing it in, they are thinking it may be a hormonal thing and are talking about trying a shot of 'Lupron' to shut down his/her hormones.. it's actually kind of funny because I just got that shot to shut down MY ovaries do to a serious issue a month ago and it sucked but hopefully Tyler is a boy and won't get hot flashes and turn into a psychopath.. We decided it was worth it, to try something as simple as that, to just give it a try.. why not give it another try for him.. they are also going to discuss some medication for his daily joint pain.. as I want him feeling better and he is probably going to come back home to stay with us as he may need the shots monthly.. bi-monthly.. and just that extra care of knowing when his poops mean he needs to go on a liquidy diet for a few days... I deal with that myself with all of my problems so I have everything here should his poops get hard again.
Has anyone ever done this hormone therapy with a bird? It's good news so far, it could still be bad news.. if this doesn't work, I am not going to put him through it again because we love him.. but if this helps him then he deserves for us to try it..

The vet JUST called!! Tyler pulled his cloaca back in by himself so he did not need the minor surgery but tomorrow they will be doing bloodwork and probably some testing of the area to find out why he keeps doing this.. make sure there are no little nodules or something.. I can't remember everything she said, I was too happy to hear he's ok.. she said he was doing fine, he was given pain medicine to keep him calm and feeling 'ok' until his surgery and they had a bunch of emergencies come in so when they went back to do him they were like, "uuuhh.. where'd it go?" so thats wonderful.. she said he is being a very good boy, sitting on his perch and he watched them very studiously as they performed an operation on an egg-bound Python to remove some viable eggs and save her.. I'll bet he was just stoned and thinking he was glad the python wasn't going to eat him. Apparently he has been very sweet and friendly the entire time, hasn't even cursed at anyone, so he must understand now that the vet is a scary place but a place that helps him.. WOO this is good news!!

When we arrived to pick him up and bring him to the vet, he just looked so relieved.. and my little nephew, who is a real 'boy' and 11 years old had taped a little piece of paper to his carrier with a gorgeous little flower he'd picked taped to it and he wrote something like 'we'll never forget you, we love you little buddy' and he even drew and colored a pink heart.. I've never seen him even TOUCH anything pink before.. SO sweet.. He was really really upset because he'd been told Tyler might not be coming back and it was just so sweet I of course was hysterically crying when I read it... so it was wonderful to be able to tell him on the phone that Tyler had a chance now, he was very relieved and said he was sorry the letter made me cry but he wanted Tyler to know how much he cared.. so sweet! Ok.. I have to go calm down and stop crying now... thank you all SO MUCH for your support.. I was very upset and faced with that choice.. it's hard and it was nice that you had my back. Now I'm just hoping he gets through this and we can keep him going without pain.. he did still have that sparkle in his eye, when we left him with the vet

- Sarah

 

[Bridgette]

I'm so glad he is doing better!! I am so happy for you and Tyler

The story about your nephew was so touching. He sounds like a sweetheart.

 

[itzmered]