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The Argument With My Mom

Cosmobird

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He can still have exercise with his wings clipped make a play gym on the outside of his cage lots of climbing opportunities with rope perches and different size perches close together foraging opportunities he as to climb to
I meant on the outside of his cage @Pixiebeak as some amazing ideas
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I have boings rope perches toys dotted about my cage on outside
How adorable! Also that is a great idea. I would have to find stuff in Amazon or something like that.
 

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Ok, I think I'm caught up. But tell me what I get wrong.

A bird should not be covered in cage all day long. Covered at night is fine.

It sounds like your bird right now isn't getting enough out of cage and social time. A few minutes twice a day is not enough. Quakers are an active species. All parrots are. But for me even more so my quakers. They are highly social.

This is tricky , because of mom and step dad rules.

Left free un -attended , is not safe, flighted or not.

Being clipped , does not mean keeping caged until can fly. He still needs to be able to climb and explore safely. Birds left for hours and hours in cage , will develop behavior problems,like screaming, like plucking, shutting down becoming highly fearful of new things.

Perhaps you can work out a plan and schedule with your parents. A couple of hours a day you can work on training, social bonds, foraging in your room . A plan for family and birds time out in the home. You can have a moveable parrot play stand for him for out in the rest of the home. You can make your own , you can find second hand rolling ones , I got one like new fur 20 bucks , but took time looking and looking. I will take pictures of both to share . Quaker enjoy hanging out with a family, and can really be social with everyone.

I think it is good to turn the outside of cage into a play area home base. By adding perches on the outside and top of cage , with toys and snack and water bowls. He will enjoy hanging out on the outside of cage watching you do homework, able to interact more. Quakers are hard to interact with inside of the cage. They get very protective of the cage , they won't want fingers pushed in , or hands in cage.csn scream if you walk up to cage As they grow out of the little baby stage this really increases, and csvt be trained away. It also has nothing to do with how sweet they will still be when out of cage. But outside of the cage they are happy to interact and more relaxed.

Because he can't fly but will still attempt , out stickers on window , they have windows clings that don't have adhesive, so you csn out in and move , or remove without messing up the window. Or sheer curtains that let light in , or blinds in open position, . So bird won't fly into glass. You can put blanket or pillows on floor so won't have hard crash landing.

You do have a lot of challenges, helping family grow in understanding of what awesome parrots need, working with safety, because of other kids , and different levels of interest in pets and animals, clipped wings and less abilities to fly. . But there is time for these things to take seed and grow and develop . You and family can creative problem solve. You can make lists together of concerns , and ways to work with these , decrease risks , incorporate the parrot into your family. Show your love and dedication, and responsibility to both your family, and your parrot.

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This has a little ceiling hook, then fishing line hanging down to a good level and tied to a big rope spiral, with toys.
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This is moveable stand , that I attached stuff with zip ties, I have changed it many times . I got it at the pet store , sold as swing holder , or to hold those aweful tiny cages . You could do something with a coat holder or such. This gives them a place to hang out with me, and can be out away .

This is the rolling play stand I got used. It has had many uses and I e changed it up many times. It's boring with just the t stand and food and water dishes. You can get very creative. It's definitely nice for cleanup, catches poop , drop toys or food . Easy to move around on rollers.
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This is moveable stand , that I attached stuff with zip ties, I have changed it many times . I got it at the pet store , sold as swing holder , or to hold those aweful tiny cages . You could do something with a coat holder or such. This gives them a place to hang out with me, and can be out away .

This is the rolling play stand I got used. It has had many uses and I e changed it up many times. It's boring with just the t stand and food and water dishes. You can get very creative. It's definitely nice for cleanup, catches poop , drop toys or food . Easy to move around on rollers.
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I’m gonna try to convince my mom on trying to make a spot for him, but I will supervise him obviously, I have to watch out for any wires, outlets and other stuff just incase and hiding spots since his cage is next to my bed. I need to see a lot of things. But I’m planning on making it fun for him. And I’m hoping I’ll be able to do it.
 

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This is kinda a messy photo taken just now . But shows stuff I attach to the outside of cage .
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I am always changing the perches I attach to the outside. You can definitely do a more aesthetic pleasing arrangement of perches and ropes on the outside. Even tho they can fly, they spend a great part of their day just climbing around outside of cage , chewing on toys and just hanging out

Your quaker will enjoy taking a bath. I use a sturdy bowl , the pink one on top of cage. Just a inch or 2 of water is enough. If you splash with your hand in the water, it will often tempt them to jump in and take a bath. I don't force I offer. I think it would be nice to offer twice a week to your boy.

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My green cheek enjoys a bath in bowl

Ok. You definitely don't want to argue with your mom. That's never good.
You want to make a plan of things you want to talk about with her , a few short ideas, can jot down . Then you want to ask her , mom is there a time we could get together and talk about our parrot, and go over plans and ideas. You want to compromise, you want her input. Because you want to the best possible you can by your parrot, and to respect family. You want to show you are thinking about this, looking for solutions.
There is so much you learn when you get into parrots, at first it is overwhelming. But it is fun. You will always be learning, I am , even after many many years.
 

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This is kinda a messy photo taken just now . But shows stuff I attach to the outside of cage .
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I am always changing the perches I attach to the outside. You can definitely do a more aesthetic pleasing arrangement of perches and ropes on the outside. Even tho they can fly, they spend a great part of their day just climbing around outside of cage , chewing on toys and just hanging out

Your quaker will enjoy taking a bath. I use a sturdy bowl , the pink one on top of cage. Just a inch or 2 of water is enough. If you splash with your hand in the water, it will often tempt them to jump in and take a bath. I don't force I offer. I think it would be nice to offer twice a week to your boy.

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My green cheek enjoys a bath in bowl

Ok. You definitely don't want to argue with your mom. That's never good.
You want to make a plan of things you want to talk about with her , a few short ideas, can jot down . Then you want to ask her , mom is there a time we could get together and talk about our parrot, and go over plans and ideas. You want to compromise, you want her input. Because you want to the best possible you can by your parrot, and to respect family. You want to show you are thinking about this, looking for solutions.
There is so much you learn when you get into parrots, at first it is overwhelming. But it is fun. You will always be learning, I am , even after many many years.
Ok so I talked with my mom today, she said about getting a playground for him, which I think is a parrot gym I believe because since the cage is in my room, she doesn’t want him out unless being watched. My mom let him out for a bit in my room since I was telling her about him having exercise, and he was a lot more calmer waddling on my bed while trying to climb it, I put blankets on top of my bed of course. We are gonna get something that’s for the outside for sure though. I’m hoping my mom gets something for his size, because my mom usually thinks small for him. With lots of climbing stuff.
 

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How awesome! It's normal to try stuff and see what works , and then sometimes ideas grow and change and develop. Same here ! I try stuff, then I try different stuff , or I think this can work but needs a few tweaks.

I'm so glad you had some postive out of cage interaction! It really is easier to interact out of the cage .
 

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So it sounds to me like your mum is doing all she can to make sure your bird is safe- I also wont ever allow my birds out of the cage if I am not actively watching... takes no time at all before they have found themselves some trouble unless they are in a room that is strictly designed for birds rather than humans. It is great she is keeping a look out for his safety and also willing to chat with you about making changes and the reasons why she wants things how she wants them.

You may also find a smaller play stand is all that is needed.... your bird although larger than a budgie is not really a huge bird so there is a good chance that a small rather than a large is fine
 

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We have lots of play stands around Dobbys favorite spots so he has places to land on and munch and nap. We armor up the favorite spots on the couch and recliner with blankets and cardboard on the one we don't want him on because he chews and puts holes in everything. Pionus are medium sized bird so a lot bigger than your bird so more damage quicker.
 
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AND the human. You could easily roll over onto your bird as they come in to snuggle. We've read that sad story a few times on here :(
That's exactly why I never allow Rio to sleep with hubby. Accident can happen and it's better to be safe than sorry.
 
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