Herbal supplements + pellets

[chris_tina]

Hi everyone,

I recently added Roudybush Daily Maintenance to my GCC's diet. Before the addition, I had been feeding Zupreem Natural, Lafeber's nutri-berries, Twin Beaks Herb Salad, and DMG supplement in her chop. I also have a couple Herbal RX liquid supplements from Avitec that I haven't opened yet.

I noticed that the instructions on the Roudybush package says that we should not feed additional vitamin/mineral supplements, as this is a complete diet. Is it a bad idea to continue feeding my GCC the herb salad and the DMG supplement? She's been having infection after infection since July, so I wanted to boost her immune system, but I also don't want to overdo the supplements and cause more health problems. Thank you for your help!

 

[iamwhoiam]

Continue the DMG. I give my birds pellets (Caitec) and DMG. As for the herb salad, not sure, although I used to use that when I was feeding Zupreem. Stopped using the herb salad, though. You might just want to give the herb salad a few times a week and not daily. If you are giving her the herb salad, though, don't use the liquid supplements. Hope she feels better soon.
Is she on any medication prescribed by a vet?

 

[Mizzely]

They don't want you to add any artificial vitamins usually because then your bird can overdose on them, specifically things that are fat soluble. All of the pellet manufacturers warn against this.

I would not hesitate to keep offering herb salad. I believe the Herbal Rx should be fine too as they aren't adding vitamins usually. What is DMG and the purpose of it?

 

[iamwhoiam]

vetri-DMG https://www.vetriscience.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=900590030

 

[chris_tina]

Continue the DMG. I give my birds pellets (Caitec) and DMG. As for the herb salad, not sure, although I used to use that when I was feeding Zupreem. Stopped using the herb salad, though. You might just want to give the herb salad a few times a week and not daily. If you are giving her the herb salad, though, don't use the liquid supplements. Hope she feels better soon.
Is she on any medication prescribed by a vet?

She's on hydroxyzine for allergies. I give it to her in her water.

 

[iamwhoiam]

Hope she will be better soon. Do continue the DMG but don't double dip on the herbs. JMHO

 

[chris_tina]

They don't want you to add any artificial vitamins usually because then your bird can overdose on them, specifically things that are fat soluble. All of the pellet manufacturers warn against this.

I would not hesitate to keep offering herb salad. I believe the Herbal Rx should be fine too as they aren't adding vitamins usually. What is DMG and the purpose of it?

DMG is pretty much an immune booster. I give it to her in hopes that she'll be able to get out of this vicious cycle of infections.

 

[Lady Jane]

Most pellets have that statement about feeding supplements while eating pelleted foods. Roudybush is not a food I feed my birds any more because of the fillers in it such as corn. Take a look at the Goldenfeast foods. They are awesome.

New Food | Avian Avenue Parrot Forum

 

[Mizzely]

Yeah I wouldn't double up on the herbs either, and some herbs DO interact with medicines. So I would make sure to talk to your vet about any possible interactions that will make the medicine inaffective.

Goldenfeast is not a complete food and cannot replace a pellet as it is missing vital nutrients like Vitamin D3

 

[chris_tina]

Yeah I wouldn't double up on the herbs either, and some herbs DO interact with medicines. So I would make sure to talk to your vet about any possible interactions that will make the medicine inaffective.

Goldenfeast is not a complete food and cannot replace a pellet as it is missing vital nutrients like Vitamin D3

I've tried switching her to Harrison's, but she absolutely refuses to eat it. She literally threw tantrums by flinging the pellets all over the room and staged hunger strikes LOL. She accepted Roudybush pretty much immediately, and I also wanted to give TOPs pellets a try, but I know that TOPs isn't a "complete" diet either. I have been decreasing the amount of pellets she's eating by offering more fresh food each day, and I hope to add sprouts soon so pellets/nutri-berries make up less than 50% of her diet.

As for the vet, I've actually discussed what I should do to boost her immune system. He's aware that she ate primarily Zupreem Natural pellets, Nutri-berries, and chop, and said that it was ok to try out things like DMG and herb salad. I'll give them a call tomorrow to confirm that this is still ok after adding Roudybush pellets to her diet.

 

[chris_tina]

Most pellets have that statement about feeding supplements while eating pelleted foods. Roudybush is not a food I feed my birds any more because of the fillers in it such as corn. Take a look at the Goldenfeast foods. They are awesome.

New Food | Avian Avenue Parrot Forum

It definitely gets really confusing. I want to make sure she gets the nutrients she needs in order to stop her chronic infections, but I also don't want to overload her with supplements and cause horrible things like kidney or liver damage. Goldenfeast pellets seem to have some great ingredients, and getting vitamin D isn't a problem in my area... I live in sunny SoCal!

 

[Lady Jane]

Goldenfeast has a specific Conure food. Look on Amazon because they sell it.

https://www.amazon.com/Goldenfeast-...F8&qid=1524514170&sr=8-6&keywords=goldenfeast

 

[camelotshadow]

vetri-DMG https://www.vetriscience.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=900590030

So birds get a drop per 100g of the one that sats dogs cats? I did not see one with birds on the front label???

Walmart has a 1 oz bottle $10.29

VetriScience Laboratories Vetri-DMG Immune Health Support Liquid for Dogs and Cats - Walmart.com

Would it be worth putting a drop on Pennys treat sometimes?

 

[finchly]

Mine rejected Harrison’s also. Major hunger strike! And I had purchased 40 or 50 pounds, so I use it in bird bread.

I do Roudybush and TOPS, they love TOPS. To me it smells like alfalfa. And I sometimes feed caitech, and a lot of Goldenfeast. I swear I could snack on Goldenfeast!