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So I’ve kept all sorts of pets, but never a bird. I want a feathery companion.

I want to make sure I get the right birb, so I’ve decided to come here.

Must haves:
Be inside 24/7

Live in cage (or tank) 3ftW x 7ftL x 2ftH

Not likely to drop dead or get sick

Have a minimum lifespan of 5 years

Not too difficult to care for or buy


Wants:
To be relatively tame

Not too loud/have ugly voice (sorry magpies!)

Not too messy (although what bird isn’t messy?)

I really like finches, and I’m almost settled on a zebra finch but I hear lifespan is 3-5 years so if you’ve got suggestions I’m open!
 

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Im actually a bit stuck for words here. Im canary all the way..but...all birds need extra work/care oh and mess cant be avoided.
A lone canary is relatively easy to care for but they do need routine supplements. Their song is very relaxing too...good lifespan if looked after properly. Sorry i wasnt much help.
@finchly . .?
 

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Thanks! I know birds aren’t easy, what I meant by “not to difficult to care for” is I don’t want one that needs everything just so, since it’s my first bird and I’ll probably make some mistake along the way. Yeah, I know birds are messy. My friend has an African grey and she’s a sweety but my gosh, you let her out and it’s like a tornado hit! Meanwhile her button quails aren’t trashing her house. I also know it differs from individual to individual, my friends African grey is exceptionally messy even compared to other greys.
 

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Have you considered quails yourself? You may also wish to look at doves too. Otherwise a canary or couple of finches may work. Some of these are going to be friendlier than others - many finches will be fairly hands-off.

Birds should not live in a tank. They need excellent ventilation and air quality.

If you're worried about sounds/song/noise, you can listen to their calls well before you decide on a species - try youtube.

All birds require specialised veterinary care so make sure that you have an avian vet lined up well before you need one.
 

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Must haves:
Be inside 24/7

Live in cage (or tank) 3ftW x 7ftL x 2ftH

Not likely to drop dead or get sick

Have a minimum lifespan of 5 years

Not too difficult to care for or buy
Most small birds, don´t really go outside unless wheeled out in their cage. Some people will take birds out in a harness.
Any animal comes with the risk of getting sick.
Have you looked at your local bird supply store? I live in a place where there isn´t lots of toys or good cages to buy so I have to shop online a lot.

Wants:
To be relatively tame

Not too loud/have ugly voice (sorry magpies!)

Not too messy (although what bird isn’t messy?)
A finch is not likely to be tame unless it was handfed, which I don´t think is too common.
Most birds are loud. A budgie or a canary has a nice sound though.
All birds are messy. Period.


Birds should not live in a tank. They need excellent ventilation and air quality.
All birds require specialised veterinary care so make sure that you have an avian vet lined up well before you need one.
Very important.

Have you considered quails yourself?
This may be a good option for you?
 

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I always remember my mother had 2 male canaries in separate cages. At sparrow-fart every day they would sing, and sing, and sing. It was such a sweet sound to wake to, in a way budgies can't match. They'd sing for the whole day with breaks to eat and nap.
I have heard zebra finches (popular in the UK) in pet shops and they have a sweet song too, but it doesn't compete.
 

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No fuss, no muss and lasts as long as you have a supply of batteries!
Yep!
My 9 year old Niece wanted a pet so badly. She asked her mum over and over again. Eventually her mum bought her one of these, a pink one. My niece loves it. She made a little house for it out of a shoebox and gave it a blanket to sleep in. Everyone is happy :)
 
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Quails have a pretty uncertain lifespan, or so I hear, that’s the only thing turning me off. Otherwise I’d totally get a pair!

No tanks then, thanks!

I know an avian vet, the reviews are good. I bring my reptiles to him and he’s very good with them, I’ll ask about birds next time I go. I hear finches are prone to mites?

I’m mainly looking at zebra or owl finches now. Canaries also look like good match though. They’re all so cute, I’m having trouble deciding!
 

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I hear finches are prone to mites?

I’m mainly looking at zebra or owl finches now.
@finchly may know more about the mites.

Just bear in mind, Finches tend to be a little skittish and not so ¨tame¨
 

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I believe mites are probably due to husbandry - many people keep finches outside as aviary birds where they're more likely to be exposed to mites. It should be less of a problem inside the home.
 

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I believe mites are probably due to husbandry - many people keep finches outside as aviary birds where they're more likely to be exposed to mites. It should be less of a problem inside the home.
Ok that’s good to know!

Yeah I knew tame wasn’t really gonna be easy coming in. I’ll try to get them to eat out of my hand, once I figure out how to do it without stressing them out.
 

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Hello Sage, welcome!

I'm glad you're looking for a little bird. We need more "littles" on the forum!

Mites.... I would treat ANY bird, not just a finch, with SCATT or other ivermectin product (made for birds) when you first get the bird, according to the directions on the package. Then, since your bird or birds won't be exposed to others, you probably don't have to think about mites ever again. I brought in a caique 2 years ago, did not treat because I was so sure the conscientious breeders would've done so, and I exposed my whole flock to mites -- and man she was covered with them! Not a healthy way for a bird to start out!

The exception to the mites thing is Gouldian finches and canaries, which are prone to "air sac mites," a different mite altogether. They are very hard to eradicate, so I treat all my birds with SCATT 4 times a year. It's not a big deal, you put a drop on their skin.

You *might* can find a breeder of the species you choose and convince them to let you hand-raise a bird, which would give you a good chance of it remaining tame. However, you have a 50-50 chance of losing a finch if you hand raise it. Not sure about canaries. I don't hand raise mine unless there's something wrong where the parents reject it, because I don't want to lose one. Mine know me though and some of them come to the cage front and do cute things; I have a finch that turns its head upside down when I talk to it, and a male that gets on the swing and sings his heart out to me. That's out of 12 birds though, so don't believe that they'll all do that. They won't.

I imagine that with good care and an excellent diet, a zebra finch would live a lot longer than 5 years! Especially if you got it from a reputable breeder. Some of my Gouldians are 8 years old...... canaries I don't have one over 5 but then I've only had canaries since 2015.

A budgie might be a good choice.... they talk sometimes, and they are friendly ...... take a look at @Lady Jane 's English budgies. Also close to the same size but completely different temperament wise are parrotlets. I have 3. They are little snots when they choose to be. From there you go up in size.....

A bigger bird will require a bigger cage, (so more $$), more interaction, in a way is more hassle if you travel at all, and will make more noise. So you have to worry about family/neighbors etc. tolerating the noise.

ETA: Oh. I just read your requirement list again. There is no guarantee that a bird won't drop dead or become ill. They are tender creatures. Even if you forget to put their water bottle back one day (I've done this) a bird can die in less than 24 hours. Yes it is hard but part of loving is losing.

Sometimes when people come here with a list like yours I say "you need a stuffed bird" but I see someone beat me to it. Not being cruel, just reality. For example, all birds are messy but finches are messier than most! When big bird owners come to my house they always comment on h ow my littles toss seed everywhere. Every pet has its drawbacks. Maybe visit a rescue so you can see them in person -- find out how much noise, mess etc. you can take.
 
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Ivermectin needs a second dose after 14 days. Eggs get missed with the first treatment, and the second treatment gets the mites that hatched from those eggs before they are old enough to lay new eggs.
 

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Ivermectin needs a second dose after 14 days. Eggs get missed with the first treatment, and the second treatment gets the mites that hatched from those eggs before they are old enough to lay new eggs.
Correct.
 

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Ok, I’ll treat for mites whenever I get one.

Gouldians going on 8 years?! From what I’ve read 3 years is average!

I usually travel once a year for a week (I get someone to care for my pets of course), so an animal that craves attention is probably not the best for me. Budgies are adorable though, my friend used to have budgies a few years ago and whenever somebody rang the doorbell they’d scream like crazy, it was adorable!

I always try to get the biggest enclosure I can get, and the space I have is 7ft long and 3ft deep and I intend to get a cage that’s those dimensions, which should be plenty for a pair of finches. I’ll add as much enrichment as I can without overcrowding it of course. Money isn’t really an issue.

I won’t risk hand-raising, I’d feel terrible if I killed the bird.

I see a lot of mixed-species finch cages. Does this come with any risks or complications?

No offence taken to the toy bird recommendation. I understand all animals need the best care and if someone isn’t willing to give it to them then they shouldn’t get one. I’ll just have to sweep more and clean the cage often. It’s not like I don’t have the time so I’m okay with the mess. I’ll try to get the healthiest birds I can I guess. Get from a good breeder. The ones at PetSmart always look like they’re on their deathbeds, poor things.

So I think I’ll go with zebra finches. They’re a bit hardier than owl finches from what I’ve read, so I think they’re the better bet. Anything else anyone wants to add?
 
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