• Welcome to Avian Avenue! To view our forum with less advertisments please register with us.
    Memberships are free and it will just take a moment. Click here

Where did you get your IRN from?

optimisticStar

Walking the driveway
Avenue Veteran
Joined
3/16/15
Messages
295
I wish to get IRN from a breeder and should also be hand fed. I am not finding any breeder nearby. I don't want to get it shipped.

Where did you guys get your IRN from? For some reason cockatiels and parakeets are easily available and not medium or bigger birds.
 

Pipper

Walking the driveway
Joined
1/6/19
Messages
179
Real Name
Andy
Well mine was sold to me by a pet store but I think it was a rescue. I have no problem with that as I think more unwanted pets should be taken to pet stores for re-sale where potential good pet owners are mostly likely to look after all.

I've been looking for a mate for her and can tell you you're going to have to search on a internet search engine for 'indian ringnecks for sale' and then check out the various suggested links for birds near your area.
 

sunnysmom

Ripping up the road
Avenue Veteran
Celebirdy of the Month
Mayor of the Avenue
Avenue Spotlight Award
Joined
9/16/13
Messages
28,965
Location
Pennsylvania
Real Name
Michelle
We have IRNS at our rescue here. I'm assuming neither of you are near PA? Have you checked any rescues near you?
 

Birdbabe

Ripping up the road
Avenue Veteran
Celebirdy of the Month
Mayor of the Avenue
Avenue Spotlight Award
Avenue Concierge
Joined
11/17/09
Messages
26,105
Location
The valley of the sun
Mine was found starving in the desert, :shakehead:..I think someone threw him out, or maybe he escaped..I got a call about a green bird, didnt have a clue,,many green birds running through my mind..
Merlin,,was supposed to be here temporarily, as a rescue,,well..15 years later, he still mine, I couldn't give the brat up..he drives me crazy,,,little turd bird.
20190115_133004.jpg
 

Jas

Rollerblading along the road
Joined
11/9/17
Messages
1,612
Location
UK
Real Name
Jasmine
Mine was found starving in the desert, :shakehead:..I think someone threw him out, or maybe he escaped..I got a call about a green bird, didnt have a clue,,many green birds running through my mind..
Merlin,,was supposed to be here temporarily, as a rescue,,well..15 years later, he still mine, I couldn't give the brat up..he drives me crazy,,,little turd bird.
View attachment 294833
Such a little cutie, and he knows it!!
 

Pipper

Walking the driveway
Joined
1/6/19
Messages
179
Real Name
Andy
We have IRNS at our rescue here. I'm assuming neither of you are near PA? Have you checked any rescues near you?
Yes, I've inquired at a couple of places. I usually get a negative answer or no answer. Which is fine as I usually expect it although it's unreasonable answer from some of them. Also, there is only so much I'm willing to pay and only so many hoops I'm willing to jump through to get a pet bird. I can buy one from a breeder or pet store easily enough.

As I'm not impulse buying it's ultimately doesn't matter that I buy from a pet store, breeder, or bird rescue. 1 bird is 1 bird. Maybe the rules the bird rescue centers need to be loosened to encourage more pet bird shoppers that impulse buy to adopt very cheap from the bird rescue centers and make it unembarrassing and non-shaming to return after some of them realize, "Hey maybe a pet bird is not for me." If they are flippers, well then that's an awfully expensive and labour intensive way to try and make a living that will almost surely be insufficient to make it worth their efforts. After all, the rescue centers have trouble finding adopters even at thousands of dollars of discount for the big parrots. I don't think flipping is the big problem it is made out to be but it's certainly been done.
 
Last edited:

sunnysmom

Ripping up the road
Avenue Veteran
Celebirdy of the Month
Mayor of the Avenue
Avenue Spotlight Award
Joined
9/16/13
Messages
28,965
Location
Pennsylvania
Real Name
Michelle
Yes, I've inquired at a couple of places. I usually get a negative answer or no answer. Which is fine as I usually expect it although it's unreasonable answer from some of them. Also, there is only so much I'm willing to pay and only so many hoops I'm willing to jump through to get a pet bird. I can buy one from a breeder or pet store easily enough.

As I'm not impulse buying it's ultimately doesn't matter that I buy from a pet store, breeder, or bird rescue. 1 bird is 1 bird. Maybe the rules the bird rescue centers need to be loosened to encourage more pet bird shoppers that impulse buy to adopt very cheap from the bird rescue centers and make it unembarrassing and non-shaming to return after some of them realize, "Hey maybe a pet bird is not for me." If they are flippers, well then that's an awfully expensive and labour intensive way to try and make a living that will almost surely be insufficient to make it worth their efforts. After all, the rescue centers have trouble finding adopters even at thousands of dollars of discount for the big parrots. I don't think flipping is the big problem it is made out to be but it's certainly been done.
I can't speak for all rescues obviously, but I know the one I help with requires attendance at one or two bird classes depending on the bird. Sometimes people with bird experience get annoyed at this but you have to look at it this way- the rescue doesn't know what a person knows. Just because a person has birds doesn't mean that they're properly taking care of them. And can't we all learn something new regardless of our experience level? Also, the rescue wants to make sure that the right bird is going to the right home. They don't want the bird to come back, that's true- but even more so, they don't want that bird to be ignored, mistreated, or passed off to other people. For instance, I had a person at an adoption event get very upset with me because his wife wanted a certain type of cockatoo, which the rescue had one of. I explained to the man that this cockatoo only liked men and that if it was to be his wife's bird, it was not going to work. He didn't want to hear it. In his mind, any bird could fit in any home and that's not the case as we know. And also, I think it's less of a matter of flippers- which of course the rescue doesn't want- but more so - hoarders. Which the rescue has come across. So, I know it can be frustrating but most rescues are well-intentioned. They've seen birds come in from horrible conditions and just want to make sure they're not sending a bird back out to another one.
 

Pipper

Walking the driveway
Joined
1/6/19
Messages
179
Real Name
Andy
I can't speak for all rescues obviously, but I know the one I help with requires attendance at one or two bird classes depending on the bird. Sometimes people with bird experience get annoyed at this but you have to look at it this way- the rescue doesn't know what a person knows. Just because a person has birds doesn't mean that they're properly taking care of them. And can't we all learn something new regardless of our experience level? Also, the rescue wants to make sure that the right bird is going to the right home. They don't want the bird to come back, that's true- but even more so, they don't want that bird to be ignored, mistreated, or passed off to other people. For instance, I had a person at an adoption event get very upset with me because his wife wanted a certain type of cockatoo, which the rescue had one of. I explained to the man that this cockatoo only liked men and that if it was to be his wife's bird, it was not going to work. He didn't want to hear it. In his mind, any bird could fit in any home and that's not the case as we know. And also, I think it's less of a matter of flippers- which of course the rescue doesn't want- but more so - hoarders. Which the rescue has come across. So, I know it can be frustrating but most rescues are well-intentioned. They've seen birds come in from horrible conditions and just want to make sure they're not sending a bird back out to another one.
I've seen more than one bird rescue insist that if you ever have to or want to give up a pet bird you got from them it has to be returned to them. Some bird rescues require prior pet bird ownership even down to the exact same species which is a policy that encourages hoarding given how long these birds live. And a class for non-prior pet bird ownership people is OK but the information likely won't be retained unless they can put it into practice every day. Requiring a comprehensive parrot care book written by biologist that is a parrot specialist or a professional parrot trainer would be better reference that they'd have with them in the form of a book at their home instead of a class they likely won't remember most of. Maybe those classes you mention supply such a book to prospective pet bird owners as part of the class? I could see requiring the book to be read and then thoroughly tested on before hand would be a very good screening tool to stop impulsive adopters. LOL, better than money in most cases. :laugh:
 

sunnysmom

Ripping up the road
Avenue Veteran
Celebirdy of the Month
Mayor of the Avenue
Avenue Spotlight Award
Joined
9/16/13
Messages
28,965
Location
Pennsylvania
Real Name
Michelle
I've seen more than one bird rescue insist that if you ever have to or want to give up a pet bird you got from them it has to be returned to them. Some bird rescues require prior pet bird ownership even down to the exact same species which is a policy that encourages hoarding given how long these birds live. And a class for non-prior pet bird ownership people is OK but the information likely won't be retained unless they can put it into practice every day. Requiring a comprehensive parrot care book written by biologist that is a parrot specialist or a professional parrot trainer would be better reference that they'd have with them in the form of a book at their home instead of a class they likely won't remember most of. Maybe those classes you mention supply such a book to prospective pet bird owners as part of the class? I could see requiring the book to be read and then thoroughly tested on before hand would be a very good screening tool to stop impulsive adopters. LOL, better than money in most cases. :laugh:
LOL. A good idea but I can just seen people's reactions to having to take a test. The rescue gives out handouts from the class. No book. I have seen rescues where you can't adopt a bird unless you've had that type of bird before which seems like birds would seldom get adopted out. Everyone has to start with a bird right? LOL.
 

Pipper

Walking the driveway
Joined
1/6/19
Messages
179
Real Name
Andy
LOL. A good idea but I can just seen people's reactions to having to take a test. The rescue gives out handouts from the class. No book. I have seen rescues where you can't adopt a bird unless you've had that type of bird before which seems like birds would seldom get adopted out. Everyone has to start with a bird right? LOL.
Yes, but their whole rational is "we're deciding what's best for the birds" but too much of the decision making in who gets to adopt has nothing to do with the prospective adopter's ability to be a good care giver for birds because it's all about location, past bird experience (but no details there really - a receipt from a pet store for a bird that lives 30 years, 15 years but where are those birds the experienced had? It's either hoarding, changing mind about the birds after purchase or adoption, or poor pet bird care), and money mostly and not about demonstrated sustained effort to learn to care for a pet bird.

I won't dispute though trying to tame a wild 3 year old IRN or other bird makes you wonder if the bird will even become tame. It's 3 days forward followed by a day where everything seems to go almost all the way backwards.
 

janicedyh

Rollerblading along the road
Avenue Veteran
Joined
7/24/16
Messages
1,821
Real Name
Janice
I'm all for rules that most rescues implement. when I signed up for a local rescue here I had to go through their "Birdie boot camp" I also had to take a test to show them I really read the material and grasp the fundamentals of how to care for a parrot. I found them extremely responsible. Also, any bird that I have rehomed, I have the adopters sign a document that the bird will revert to me if they are unable to care for it. I used to be the person at work that would take coworkers birds once they found out they are not pets but companions.
 

sunnysmom

Ripping up the road
Avenue Veteran
Celebirdy of the Month
Mayor of the Avenue
Avenue Spotlight Award
Joined
9/16/13
Messages
28,965
Location
Pennsylvania
Real Name
Michelle
Yes, but their whole rational is "we're deciding what's best for the birds" but too much of the decision making in who gets to adopt has nothing to do with the prospective adopter's ability to be a good care giver for birds because it's all about location, past bird experience (but no details there really - a receipt from a pet store for a bird that lives 30 years, 15 years but where are those birds the experienced had? It's either hoarding, changing mind about the birds after purchase or adoption, or poor pet bird care), and money mostly and not about demonstrated sustained effort to learn to care for a pet bird.

I won't dispute though trying to tame a wild 3 year old IRN or other bird makes you wonder if the bird will even become tame. It's 3 days forward followed by a day where everything seems to go almost all the way backwards.
Location is usually because most rescues require a home check. I do disagree with rescues that require bird experience. (The one I help with doesn't.) They're willing to teach people how to be good bird owners. Again, I wish you were closer because our rescue does have some nice IRNs right now and I'd like to think you'd have a good experience with dealing with the rescue. :)
 

Pipper

Walking the driveway
Joined
1/6/19
Messages
179
Real Name
Andy
Location is usually because most rescues require a home check. I do disagree with rescues that require bird experience. (The one I help with doesn't.) They're willing to teach people how to be good bird owners. Again, I wish you were closer because our rescue does have some nice IRNs right now and I'd like to think you'd have a good experience with dealing with the rescue. :)
Oh, thanks but I wouldn't worry. I will buy one in the summer from the Finch Farm or drive down to Florida & buy one when I visit my brother. Once I have a mate for my IRN and one for that lonely old cockatiel I'm set. Or rather they're set. I got my IRN to walk out of her cage and eat out my hand but it still takes a lot of courage on her part but at least when a pinky twitches despite my best efforts to stay still and she bolts in fear at least she wont crash into the cage walls. It did take courage before on my part too but I started wearing gloves. Ouch!

I'm still debating whether I want to breed IRNs. I'm already sure I don't want to exceed 3 - 6 clutches if I do. I'm going to judge on whether to breed at how successful or unsuccessful I am in taming and training the wild one I have now. I could have bought a fledgling hand-raised IRN but I wanted the challenge and experience of taming a full grown untame adult. The only way I could have made that more difficult was trying to tame an untame bonded pair. I'm taming an untame bonded pair of budgies now and just having so-so success but then they are only 9 months old when I got them and I've not spent near as much time taming them as I have on the single IRN so far. Budgie seem to be easier to tame, then again i've only ever tamed 2 budgies and a cockatiel as a small boy and now 2 budgies and an IRN (still in progress) as an adult decades later.
 

janicedyh

Rollerblading along the road
Avenue Veteran
Joined
7/24/16
Messages
1,821
Real Name
Janice
"'I'm still debating whether I want to breed IRNs. I'm already sure I don't want to exceed 3 - 6 clutches if I do.". I was not aware that you were intending to breed them. Most people who are trying to rehome their companion birds would not rehome them to someone whos purpose is to breed. I'm not criticizing you for breeding birds, just stating a fact. If you are to inquire about birds that are being rehomed I would suggest you make that part of the conversation.I know you talked about finding them a "mate" but in my mind I was thinking along the lines of you wanting to find them a friend so they would not get lonely when you were not around.
 

Pipper

Walking the driveway
Joined
1/6/19
Messages
179
Real Name
Andy
"'I'm still debating whether I want to breed IRNs. I'm already sure I don't want to exceed 3 - 6 clutches if I do.". I was not aware that you were intending to breed them. Most people who are trying to rehome their companion birds would not rehome them to someone whos purpose is to breed. I'm not criticizing you for breeding birds, just stating a fact. If you are to inquire about birds that are being rehomed I would suggest you make that part of the conversation.I know you talked about finding them a "mate" but in my mind I was thinking along the lines of you wanting to find them a friend so they would not get lonely when you were not around.
I've stated I'm unsure if I am going to or not going to breed them. I won't if I'm not satisfied with the IRN I have once I've tamed her as much as she's going to get tamed and find that maybe they don't make as good a pet as claimed. I know IRNs are not monogamous and don't get to be pining and clinging like conures, macaws, and cockatoos do and then tend to self-mutilate. So it's a possibility but as an example I very well wouldn't apply for a job and tell them there is the possibility that I will quit one day and they won't tell me they might lay me off one day or be fired. Those are reasonable legal choices that might be might under the correct conditions. If one really serious about a pet bird never being bred and absolutely be sure it won't be bred then the only real solution is to keep the bird themselves. Or maybe birds can be sterilized, I don't know.

Anyway, I saw something very cute today. I was so surprised as this was very unexpected. My adopted 15 year old cockatiel that was so depressed is now happy as it goes in and out of his cage all day now, whistles about an hour at day break and even as aloof and grouchy as he once was, this evening he actually held his head down and waited, then rubbed the top of his head against my female budgie asking her to preen his head but she ignored him as she is bonded with a male budgie. :( He also will take sunflower seeds and peanuts out of my fingers where before he used to run or stand his ground, hiss & bluff bite me. I will definitely have to get another cockatiel friend for him. I don't know if his new friend will be male or female but if she's female there is a possibility they might breed.
 
Last edited:

J-Birdflock

Checking out the neighborhood
Joined
1/28/19
Messages
1
Real Name
Jennifer
I have 2 IRN they are new to the family. i got them from a lady.. she didn't seem to know much about them and are untamed, but I fell in love with them when i saw them. She said they are both males, but we think the green one is a male and the blue one is a female. I know they have yet to see the Dr. but we are going pretty soon. They are 9 months old they are coming out of the cage all day now. I've had them 4 1/2 weeks and they are still scared but they are coming around! Tonight my blue one flew to the other room on the floor and climbed up on my hand for the first time.. then flew back to his cage.
 

Pipper

Walking the driveway
Joined
1/6/19
Messages
179
Real Name
Andy
I have 2 IRN they are new to the family. i got them from a lady.. she didn't seem to know much about them and are untamed, but I fell in love with them when i saw them. She said they are both males, but we think the green one is a male and the blue one is a female. I know they have yet to see the Dr. but we are going pretty soon. They are 9 months old they are coming out of the cage all day now. I've had them 4 1/2 weeks and they are still scared but they are coming around! Tonight my blue one flew to the other room on the floor and climbed up on my hand for the first time.. then flew back to his cage.
If she said they were both males at that young of an age they almost were surely DNA tested already. You should ask her.

Cool, but a bird that leaves it cage and flies to you and then climbs onto your hand is either trained tamed or imprinted onto people already. They are very pretty. If you don't want to wait 3 years to find out their sex you can order a Avian DNA Sex Test for $23 using a shed down feather from them (make sure your don't mix up which down feather goes to which bird). Your vet can also DNA test probably, although it might cost more.

Continue to work as much as you can with them cause if you wait until they are adult it will be much harder work with very bizarre behaviour from them. I'm trying to tame a 3 year old female and she is more than untame, she is wild! She does things like very skittishly and slowly walk up to a small tupperware lid I put on the top of the cage for her so I could occasionally put a sunflower seed or peanut on it so she'd learn not to be afraid of my approach close to her but she is so scaredy that she picks up that small tupperware lid after taking a very long time to even get near it and drops it and then is so scared when it landed back on the top of the cage jumped a half foot in the air and then bolted off the top of the cage to the side of the cage.
 
Last edited:

cassiesdad

Ripping up the road
Weather Authority
Avenue Veteran
Celebirdy of the Month
Mayor of the Avenue
Avenue Spotlight Award
Avian Angel
Joined
3/21/11
Messages
1,000,000
Location
Erie PA
Real Name
Bob Weisman
We were at the local mall here in Erie. We went into the chain pet store there and one of the employees was hand feeding these little green chicks...we didn't know the species at the time. Anyway, there were three chicks...we were charmed by the little ones. Two of the chicks were already spoken for, so we bought the last one...the "runt" of the clutch....for 100 dollars.

We took the little green IRN home a few weeks later...and named him Titan. This all happened in March of 1991, by the way. ;) We enjoyed his company for 26 years...until he flew up to the Bridge in February of 2017...:heart:
 

Pipper

Walking the driveway
Joined
1/6/19
Messages
179
Real Name
Andy
Actually on the DNA test if you buy it the directions recommend you pluck a fresh feather to get fresh DNA from the skin. A shed feather will have DNA too but not as fresh so there is a higher chance of incorrect DNA test results (but don't ask me what the higher probability of the wrong results might be percentage-wise).
 

Pipper

Walking the driveway
Joined
1/6/19
Messages
179
Real Name
Andy
We were at the local mall here in Erie. We went into the chain pet store there and one of the employees was hand feeding these little green chicks...we didn't know the species at the time. Anyway, there were three chicks...we were charmed by the little ones. Two of the chicks were already spoken for, so we bought the last one...the "runt" of the clutch....for 100 dollars.

We took the little green IRN home a few weeks later...and named him Titan. This all happened in March of 1991, by the way. ;) We enjoyed his company for 26 years...until he flew up to the Bridge in February of 2017...:heart:
That's a long time!

The one I have today for the very 1st time has started using that 'dovish sounding' IRN call when see wants me to come and feed her! That should start saving me time because I have been making 16 - 20 trips to her cage a day holding a handful of seed out for her to come and eat for up to a total of an hour & 1/2 a day. I found it works better to make the cage door be propped up like a draw bridge as a platform for her to stand on when so she can come out of her cage rather than me reach into her cage as she was drawing blood and lost most of her wing flight feathers the other way. Better if she's going to panic and bolt to bolt into thin air.

A tip for those trying to tame wild IRNs and other birds that forage is they use their beaks to dig in the dirt and turn up hidden seeds in the wild and they also bite the ground in the wild to turn up seeds so when they IRN does that to your bare hand (as she must of down to the pet care givers before me and also to me) hard enough it is going to hurt and your reflexes will make you jerk your hand away, undoing much taming work and scaring your IRN besides also making you scared of your IRN when hand feeding. You can buy a thick wool glove with hard plastic blue dots embedded in the surface (these gloves are meant for hobby hand wood carving) to feed your IRN to avoid the pain of that forage beak. You might also need a thimble for your pinky or other fingers underneath the glove.

I hope to have her consistently and willingly stepping up to my hand by the 1st of March but will have to see if I can overcome her fear of touching or being touch by people. I'll be wearing my wood carving gloves so that should help her. I took them off as an experiment most of the day yesterday and it upset her a lot. She would skittishly approach, grab a seed and run. It took the whole day for her to get comfortable enough to sit there by my bare hand and eat continually. Then she started 'foraging' looking for her preferred seed, pinching flesh in my palm which make my reflexes pull away and scared her a lot so that was the end of that experiment at least until 6 months and a very thorough taming I might try again.

That bird has been a lot of work but she's been an excellent learning experience.
 
Top