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all test came back negative and he is getting better. Maybe a toxin like zinc? that is the last test he has all the symptoms of. He is getting better though. I will just keep feeding him well. today is the first time he sat on my shoulder. the biggest problem is he has the grosest poop. It is projectile green slime. There goes the couch. :confused: Missed the towel entirely. I hope we can help this bird. Imodium AD anyone. JK.
 

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glad to hear he is getting better. :D

have you though about birdie diapers?
 

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glad to hear he is getting better. :D

have you though about birdie diapers?
haha actually yes. I am thinking one giant diaper on me (thus the towel) jsut wish he didn't miss it. lol
 

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I hope he continues to improve!!! The poops should get better too...lol Took a year for a normal poop outta Tango.
 

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hope he continues to improve...just put an old blanket or an old sheet over your couch for now
 

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Hope he continues to improve.
 

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So glad he is continuing to improve.
 

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It's so frustrating when you have no concrete answers. I'm glad you do see improvement. :hug5:
 

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Have they done testing for heavy metal poisoning? It sure gets frustrating when you cant find answers. Glad to hear he is doing better
 

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Have they done testing for heavy metal poisoning? It sure gets frustrating when you cant find answers. Glad to hear he is doing better
That is next week. We did an x-ray and thankfully can't see anything that was swallowed. The symptoms now point toward Zinc poisoning. I am glad he is starting to talk. I wish he would play. He saw Fifi for the first time last night and couldn't keep his eyes off her. She ignored him just preening away. Gizmo was plucking last night for the second time. I am hoping it was just stress. I don't have to give any meds right now for a little while although they wer helping.
 

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Have you given his toys a once over? If you have any toys that have chains or non SS hangers I would pull them immediately. Heavy Metal Poisoning in Birds: Symptoms and treatment as well as prevention
Thank you, this is actually the exact site that helped me think it is Zinc. I am going to juice cilantro because he wont eat it and see if I can sneak it into his water. Does anyone know how much or how often he should drink the cilantro or eat it for zinc poisoning?
 

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So glad he is improving! May he continue to get better.:hug8:
 

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I am not sure but I dont think you could over do it.There was another recipe for natural detox for metal poisoning. Let me see if I can find it.
 

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I am not sure but I dont think you could over do it.There was another recipe for natural detox for metal poisoning. Let me see if I can find it.
I found a chelation recipe and it says 2 t for humans. I am not sure I can get my bird to eat this. Should dropper him? I guess only 1/4-1/2 t would work for that right?
 

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Peanut butter is binding if it's in his GI tract. I'm not sure what to do if it's in his liver and kidneys.

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I found a chelation recipe and it says 2 t for humans. I am not sure I can get my bird to eat this. Should dropper him? I guess only 1/4-1/2 t would work for that right?
What is in the recipe? If it's this one I would, at the very least, omit the Brazil nuts and pumpkin seeds which are incredibly high in zinc. Your best bet for heavy metals is to get the blood test done as soon as possible and then, if it comes back as high, use traditional chelation therapy. Normal zinc levels are debatable too though and some birds run normally high. I spent thousands of dollars treating my Cockatoo for zinc toxicity only to find that his levels are normal at 3.9ppm, this is considered very high for some birds but are quite normal for Reggie.

Fresh Cilantro
(2 cups - packed) - alternatively: Coriander or Chinese Parsley) - Cilantro Helps Flush Out Heavy Metals
    • Without the help of any chelation agents, cilantro was able to remove the mercury in two to three weeks. (Acupunct Electrother Res 96;21 (2): 133-60.) '
    • Eating cilantro increased urinary excretion of lead and aluminum.
    • When cilantro was used concurrently with antibiotics (bacterial issues) or natural anti-viral agents and/ or fatty acids like EPA with D.A., an infection could be eliminated for good. (Acupnct Electrother Res. 95:20 (3-4): 195-229.)
    • Note: cilantro pills are available -- but the active component in cilantro is easily destroyed during processing -- fresh herbs are always best. You can add them to your soups or salads, or garnish any dish.
    • Bird owners who are concerned about heavy metal toxicities may feed some of this pesto -- or simply fresh cilantro - to their birds to provide excellent nutritional support and naturally get rid of toxins that have already been absorbed
  • 4 cloves of garlic
  • 1/3 cup Brazil Nuts (selenium source)
  • 1/3 cup Pumpkin Seeds (zinc, magnesium)
  • 1/3 cup Sunflower Seeds (cysteine source)
  • 2/3 cup Flaxseed Oil (omega-3 fatty acids)
  • 4 tablespoons of lemon juice (vitamin C)
  • 2 teaspoons Dulse Powder (in the health food stores - usually where salts are)
 
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