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[Sweet Louise]

I joined 2 CAG boards on fb. I don't think I can stand it. No nastiness like the other fb page we all know about... but my goodness. People who have no idea what they are doing. Birds flying away because they took them outside without a harness or any other safety measure. Small, barren cages that would be too small for a finch. Dowels, dowels, dowels. Feeding seeds to big birds as their the food source. People asking if they should withhold food so they can train them. People who have no idea of what they are doing and did absolutely no research. I am fairly new to all this and have learned a lot from this board but I researched and spent time with a knowing bird owner before jumping in. I worry that I do not provide a good enough home for Louise, she is a queen in a palace with a buffet compared to what these folks are doing.

 

[faislaq]

I'm sorry. It hurts to watch ignorance you can't change. Will any of them listen to your suggestions?

 

[Sweet Louise]

people not looking for advice do not take it...

 

[faislaq]

I could not be a part of groups like those; I couldn't take it. I understand that there are people like that out there, but if I cannot stop them or help the animals I have to not watch.

 

[Lady Jane]

Sad to say there is much ignorance in the world of companion bird caregivers. We can only try to enlighten these individuals through education. I figure if our voice helps just one bird it was worth the effort. I am in a FB show budgie group with world wide membership.
You would not believe the filthy conditions some of the birds live in . Others have nice clean aviaries. I will say something when the cages and perches need cleaning.

 

[faislaq]

Sad to say there is much ignorance in the world of companion bird caregivers. We can only try to enlighten these individuals through education. I figure if our voice helps just one bird it was worth the effort. I am in a FB show budgie group with world wide membership.
You would not believe the filthy conditions some of the birds live in . Others have nice clean aviaries. I will say something when the cages and perches need cleaning.

Thank you for that.

 

[Sweet Louise]

Do you find that even folks looking for advice don't use it?

 

[Chopper]

Do you find that even folks looking for advice don't use it?

All the time. All you can do is give your advice/opinion. They have to do the rest.

 

[jax7271]

Honestly...I can't handle most of the Facebook groups I have seen....when I first heard about the nasty group that preys on people for fun, I was shocked at the meanness directed at people they don't even know without grounds and there is just so much negativity being hurled around there....who needs that in their lives?
I enjoy reading and learning from the two forums I have chosen to join and although I am not the most prolific poster (yet).....people are actually nice here....lol!!!

 

[JLcribber]

Facemob is the worst place to get any advice. The blind leading the dumb.

 

[finchly]

I am in a group, I hardly visit it because it is run by a Bird Nazi. Most recently, this person gives their advice (followed by about 6 more messages, full of Links to their OWN documents)....it’s like they spam the person asking the question and then THEY LOCK THE THREAD. So only the group owner can answer questions!

Worse, some of the advice is incorrect. It kills me. I’d like to quit the group but I would like for the members to know why people are leaving the group. Which they won’t.

BTW @Sweet Louise people ask about withholding food for training because someone suggests that. Parrot Wizard maybe.

 

[Sweet Louise]

@finchly , is it correct to with hold food for training? I don't think it would work at all for Louise...Then again, I don't really train her, I let the birdette be a bird. She will step up but not so much more than that.

 

[EllaMay]

My goodness Ella does so much without treats or food rewards. I would never ever withhold food from the sweetest thing ever in my life Ms Ella. She naturally does everything for praise and excitement.

 

[BolfieKun~]

I'm glad people like you exist, I wouldn't have birds without you guys. You make things so much more fun and bring light to the bird communities (sorry if that sounded sarcastic its not i promise)

 

[Sylvester]

Maybe you can start your own bird FB page to try to educate people more? You can even suggest the new group to some of the members from the one you are in now.

 

[BolfieKun~]

Good idea @Sylvester

 

[Sweet Louise]

I don't think I could replicate this site on fb. People here care about birds and learning how to enrich their lives. I don't think it exists on fb...and I just don't understand it. Thought it would be cool to see more birds and hear more stories. It's just to sad. I found this site because I researched. Some of the questions on fb are so basic you have to wonder how they could find the fb group but not know how to complete a basic google search... And while I know some stuff about birds, I am by no means an expert, that is why I come here, plenty of experts.

 

[BolfieKun~]

Well if it was possible it would save the lives and sweet innocent and helpless hearts of them too.

 

[Hotpockets]

@finchly , is it correct to with hold food for training? I don't think it would work at all for Louise...Then again, I don't really train her, I let the birdette be a bird. She will step up but not so much more than that.

Withholding or restricting food is something that is done in dog training. You're not starving the dog, just making the dog work for their food. The idea behind it is not only does it increase motivation but it also makes it easier to control calories in overweight pets. I'm not sure how that would work with birds.

 

[Sylvester]

I don't think I could replicate this site on fb. People here care about birds and learning how to enrich their lives. I don't think it exists on fb...and I just don't understand it. Thought it would be cool to see more birds and hear more stories. It's just to sad. I found this site because I researched. Some of the questions on fb are so basic you have to wonder how they could find the fb group but not know how to complete a basic google search... And while I know some stuff about birds, I am by no means an expert, that is why I come here, plenty of experts.

I belong to FB horse groups and while I may not agree with all of their approaches, we are usually on the same page. Too bad the bird groups are not the same way.