Apple cider vinegar

[marian]

How much Apple cider vinegar do I put in his water and how many times per week? I went to the health food store for some.

 

[Daisy's Mom]

Great question Marian! I was wondering the same thing as to what to do on a regular basis with my birdies so they don't get any more yeast infections...

 

[marian]

Tiffany I just ran to the health store for acv....so curious.

 

[atvchick95]

I use the normal store bought kind - never have had a problem with it, and it DID get rid of a tumor on my parakeet she had it 3 years ago and has NEVER had it since

I just put a drop or 2 (depending on the size of the water dish I use 5 and 10 oz dishes) in their water and give it to them once a month

When she had a tumor I started with every week as the tumor went away I decreased it to every 2 weeks then to just monthly

But I've been reading where AVC(even the one with the "mother" in it) is not good for them that it shouldn't be given to them so Now i'm re-thinking giving it to them at all

 

[jmfleish]

I use the normal store bought kind - never have had a problem with it, and it DID get rid of a tumor on my parakeet she had it 3 years ago and has NEVER had it since

I just put a drop or 2 (depending on the size of the water dish I use 5 and 10 oz dishes) in their water and give it to them once a month

When she had a tumor I started with every week as the tumor went away I decreased it to every 2 weeks then to just monthly

But I've been reading where AVC(even the one with the "mother" in it) is not good for them that it shouldn't be given to them so Now i'm re-thinking giving it to them at all

Where did you read that? I'd be interested in hearing more. As far as I know, ACV is supposed to be all natural. You should probably only give it once every six months for about two weeks in the water...that's what I remember reading.

 

[atvchick95]

Where did you read that? I'd be interested in hearing more. As far as I know, ACV is supposed to be all natural. You should probably only give it once every six months for about two weeks in the water...that's what I remember reading.

it was here on the forum. I'll have to search to find it again

but I know I've read here and other places that it removes ALL bacteria from the birds, the good and the bad

 

[jmfleish]

it was here on the forum. I'll have to search to find it again

but I know I've read here and other places that it removes ALL bacteria from the birds, the good and the bad

Ahhhh! That's GSE, not ACV. ACV leaves the good bacteria. Anything else you can remember or was it just the gut bacteria thing?

 

[marian]

Whats GSE?

 

[atvchick95]

maybe I am getting the 2 mixed up I can't find it now or it wasn't on here and some where else I was reading, I'll keep looking though

Marian GSE is short for Grape Seed Extract

 

[Anne & Gang]

eight drops of acv per four ounces of water

 

[Karen]

But I've been reading where AVC(even the one with the "mother" in it) is not good for them that it shouldn't be given to them so Now i'm re-thinking giving it to them at all

I remember reading something about it also. I read it recently but I be darned if I can remember much more than it alters or removes something that is needed.

 

[Michaelg]

I don't use ACV regularly for my birds, but I wash my feet with it to prevent / control fungus, since I'm not 100% off steriods (just get a small trace in my Advair disk) yet and a tendency towards fungus is a side effect of steroid use. I get gallons of pasturized ACV and pour a little bit of organic ACV (Bragg, with the mother) in, and the mother starts to grow in the gallon. For me, this is a cheaper and more convenient than than shopping for organic vinegar as often.

 

[GG.]

Marian, Jamie posted a thread in the Holistic Avenue that will help answer your question

http://forums.avianavenue.com/holistic-avenue/333-apple-cider-vinegar.html

 

[jmfleish]

I remember reading something about it also. I read it recently but I be darned if I can remember much more than it alters or removes something that is needed.

I think you guys are mixing up ACV and GSE but that's just a guess. ACV doesn't harm good gut bacteria, it's actually really great for digestion and helping with the reduction of yeast from sugars that can cause irregularity in the gut.

 

[Karen]

I get gallons of pasturized ACV and pour a little bit of organic ACV (Bragg, with the mother) in, and the mother starts to grow in the gallon. For me, this is a cheaper and more convenient than than shopping for organic vinegar as often.

Nice tip, thanks for sharing.

 

[Karen]

I think you guys are mixing up ACV and GSE but that's just a guess. ACV doesn't harm good gut bacteria, it's actually really great for digestion and helping with the reduction of yeast from sugars that can cause irregularity in the gut.

No, what I read was about ACV.

 

[jmfleish]

ACV does not affect good gut bacteria, but does affect bad gut bacteria:

Living Paleo - Probiotics/Good Bacteria Part 2

GSE is a natural antibiotic that cannot tell the difference and will go after both good and bad gut bacteria which is not what you want and which is why it's a bad idea to ingest GSE.

 

[ortegah]

I put 3-4 drops of organic unfiltered ACV in all of their water 2-3 times a week.

 

[atvchick95]

I remember reading something about it also. I read it recently but I be darned if I can remember much more than it alters or removes something that is needed.

I was starting to think i was hallucinating LOL

I know just last week or a couple weeks ago there was a long (very long if i remember right) discussion about the GSE and how it does more harm then good.

I don't know if the ACV was in with that discussion or not though - that's what I'm having trouble remembering

but i do know i read it about both things and the ACV I read 1st it may not of even been on the board, may of been a page I'd found and was reading

having a very bad memory is so frustrating!

 

[Renae]

ACV does not affect good gut bacteria, but does affect bad gut bacteria:

Living Paleo - Probiotics/Good Bacteria Part 2

GSE is a natural antibiotic that cannot tell the difference and will go after both good and bad gut bacteria which is not what you want and which is why it's a bad idea to ingest GSE.

That is what I thought. I have never used GSE.