Using f-10

[Joe Henderson]

Many use f-10 and. Believe. It’s bird safe however it has dimethyl ammonium chloride (quats) and ever where I look online. Show this to bee dangerous the epa classifies it as a. Pesticide how is it bird safe ? He’s a. Article Disinfectant Overkill: What are “Quats” and why are they a problem?

 

[Zara]

Thread moved to the Safety Avenue for better visibility.

 

[Mizzely]

I imagine like most things it is about concentration. F10 is only safe when properly diluted per the directions listed. It is also a veterinary grade disinfectant, which is why it is purposely "overkill". It is also why I do not use it every cleaning. It is invaluable for cleaning after an illness, or cleaning a used cage, etc, but I would never use it for everyday cleaning.

 

[Joe Henderson]

Bump feedback?

 

[webchirp]

Yes, very dilute usage. But it is really good stuff. I use it for all my cleaning. I cannot stand the smell of vinegar and I have a few that can get yeast on a yearly basis. Currently spraying Giggie for yeast on her skin.

 

[Mizzely]

Seeing as how vets prescribe it as something that can be nebulized with good results, I feel safe using it on the cage.

 

[WikiWaz]

I use it once a month, but it's really diluted, like 4 mL to 1 liter hot water.

 

[Just-passn-thru]

Many use f-10 and. Believe. It’s bird safe however it has dimethyl ammonium chloride (quats) and ever where I look online. Show this to bee dangerous the epa classifies it as a. Pesticide how is it bird safe ? He’s a. Article Disinfectant Overkill: What are “Quats” and why are they a problem?

Totally agree...
Here's a better alternative

Hypochlorous acid is found naturally in white blood cells of mammals, including the human body.[3] It is non-toxic and has been used as a safe wound care solution for many years.[4]

When dissolved in water, hypochlorous acid water has been found to have strong disinfection properties. Given this and its non-toxicity, it has been identified as a useful cleaning agent and sanitizer.[5] It has been identified by the US Environmental Protection Agency as a disinfectant effective against COVID-19,[6] backed by clinical studies.

Because of its ability to penetrate pathogens' membranes, it is also used as a commercial deodorizer.

Cleaning vs Disinfecting

 

[Just-passn-thru]

What is Hypochlorous acid...


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[Shezbug]

What Is Hypochlorous Acid? And Why Should You Use It?

Link doesn’t work for me

 

[Just-passn-thru]

Link doesn’t work for me

Actually could you remove it ?

 

[Just-passn-thru]

Link doesn’t work for me

Please delete this empty link

 

[Shezbug]

Please delete this empty link

You’ve fixed it, it’s working now.

 

[camelotshadow]

Sounds interesting but how do we source a safe hypochlorous acid & dilute it for skin care?

I trust this med review site & they seem to say good things about it to.

Hypochlorous Acid: A Review

The surgeon needs to have an inexpensive, available, nontoxic, and practical disinfectant that is effective in sanitizing against the COVID-19 (Coronavirus Disease 2019) virus. The purpose of this article was to review the evidence for using hypochlorous ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

It's light sensitive so I suppose mixed formula should not be stored long.

 

[Just-passn-thru]

Sounds interesting but how do we source a safe hypochlorous acid & dilute it for skin care?

I trust this med review site & they seem to say good things about it to.

Hypochlorous Acid: A Review

The surgeon needs to have an inexpensive, available, nontoxic, and practical disinfectant that is effective in sanitizing against the COVID-19 (Coronavirus Disease 2019) virus. The purpose of this article was to review the evidence for using hypochlorous ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

It's light sensitive so I suppose mixed formula should not be stored long.

I use this brand/formulation it has a six month shelf life. One gallon premixed.
https://www.amazon.com/Hypochlorous-Medical-Professionals-Natural-Surface/dp/B08L4PBZMP/ref=sr_1_7?crid=24HJ8RG79L2KM&dchild=1&keywords=hypochlorous+acid&qid=1626995452&s=hpc&sprefix=Hypo,hpc,259&sr=1-7&th=1
It's a wound cleaner and eye wash too! Used in food preparation and cleaning produce.
I keep spray bottles for general purposes. Storage in a cool dark place.
It also comes in its dry powder/tablet formulation and mixed with water when needed
Many solutions are photo sensitive.
Best to kept out of direct sunlight.

 

[Just-passn-thru]

I use this brand/formulation it has a six month shelf life. One gallon premixed.
https://www.amazon.com/Hypochlorous-Medical-Professionals-Natural-Surface/dp/B08L4PBZMP/ref=sr_1_7?crid=24HJ8RG79L2KM&dchild=1&keywords=hypochlorous+acid&qid=1626995452&s=hpc&sprefix=Hypo,hpc,259&sr=1-7&th=1
It's a wound cleaner and eye wash too! Used in food preparation and cleaning produce.
I keep spray bottles for general purposes. Storage in a cool dark place.
It also comes in its dry powder/tablet formulation and mixed with water when needed
Many solutions are photo sensitive.
Best to kept out of direct sunlight.

More helpful links about this solution.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...wQFnoECAMQBQ&usg=AOvVaw08XVmk7AsouvICNpe1Pb3R

 

[rocky'smom]

@Just-passn-thru. Is this what you are talking about

I found this at Walgreens in their discount bin.

 

[Just-passn-thru]

@Just-passn-thru. Is this what you are talking about View attachment 395039
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I found this at Walgreens in their discount bin.

Yes . no need to dilute

 

[rocky'smom]

Yay thank you

 

[Joe Henderson]

Hypochlorites is a weak acid that happens when chlorine dissolvers in water