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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly about Amazons

alastair313

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I am a pet lover and i have two really adorable cats (male & female). Being a pet owner I know cleaning cat litters and hairs is really hard. Yesterday while surfing on google I found a link where i found detailed article on different vacuum cleaners. I am sharing this link here may be this could help you.

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I love my Ricco. He is so pretty and sometimes very sweet and loveable, but then sometimes not. He does let you know when he wants a scritching and when he wants to be left alone though. I can read his body language and postures to figure out when to love on him. I have learned so much about him in the short time we have had him. I brought him home on October 18th of last year and let me tell you I am so in love with my BFA Ricco I could not imagine my life without him. He plays and it is huge entertainment for me to just sit back and watch him play. Yesterday he said, gooofballll. It was so funny and took me by total surprise. I laughed so hard. He does that alot. He will say something he has heard us say off hand. He is soooo smart. We are a Christian family and we do not say cuss words so it is okay if he repeats what he hears us say. I was kissing him today while he was being sweet and my lovebird Keeco was so mad. He was sitting in his cage chirping as if to say hey what about me. I keep them completely separated. They are in the same room but always apart in different areas of the room so we don't have an accident and I lose my Keeco to Ricco biting him. Keeco is so brazen and has tried to bite him so we have to be careful. I love my little flock. My daughter got a female cockatiel in December of last year so my flock is 3 birds strong. I have always loved birds, but my zon is absolutely amazing. I love him so much. I love my little Keeco so much too. Keeco is my snuggler and Ricco is my talker.
 

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I have a brand new baby Yellow Naped Amazon! His name is Benny Francis. He's a sweetie pie.
The good: He's almost 5 months old. I first got him when he was a month old. Of course, I left him with the bird seller, whom I've known and trusted for over 32 years. I visited Benny Francis every day to handle and cuddle him. When he went to 2 feedings a day, I would take him home for a few hours, then bring him back to the store. This helped him to adjust to his new home.
He's such a lovely, gentle bird.

The bad: Absolutely nothing yet! He's pretty quiet so far, but he's starting to find his voice. He 'talks' to himself when he's settling in for bed. I was told 2 things: Do not put an amazon near my face. Hahaha! I am training Benny Francis to give kisses to get him accustomed to me getting close to him. He responds well. The second thing I was told is that amazons do not like their backs touched. So, I 'snuggle' play with my little baby so that he will not acquire that bad habit.

The ugly: How can there be anything ugly about this beautiful baby yet?

The special: Every morning and every evening I take Benny Francis outside and sing Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star to him while pointing and looking up. He is now making sounds when I sing to him, like he's trying to sing along. Now, when I want to take him outside, I say, 'let's go Twinkle Twinkle'. He hops right on my hand to go with me. When it's time to go inside, I say, 'let's go Benny Francis house!' and he looks toward the front door while happily ruffling his feathers.

I feel so fortunate to have the opportunity to work with Benny Francis from such a young age. Long ago, I had a Lilac-Crowned Amazon that was an adult when I got him. What a very different experience!
 

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Just found the Amazon thread - wish I had seen it in 2016 when I first rescued Missy, as a virtual bird newbie. At that time she had never had a bath, seen a vet, been on a hand or out of her cage, and was named Patrick. Her feathers were not too bad for living on seeds, but her liver did suffer, so she's on milkthisltle for life. Now, of course, she gets regular baths, full spectrum lighting for part of the day, rides the finger when she's in the mood, loves to travel in her modified cat carrier (except to the vet's) and rules the roost. She converted to Harrison's pellets in 3 days and never looked back. but eats almost nothing else, making it hard to give her a treat for training. However, kudos to Harrison's - everyone raves about her beautiful, healthy looks, including her vet.
She has rarely bitten me, and always for a real reason. She was bonded to me before I rescued her (which is why I took her in) and is very jealous. Once, when I was petting a cockatoo in his owner's arms, she flew across a very large room to attack him (with clipped wings yet!) so I know I cannot have another bird in the house. Also, she is not anyone's bird - has only stepped up for 4 people in 2 years.
Ordinarily she only squawks loudly in morning and evening, calling the flock together for meals. Otherwise, fairly quiet unless we commit the sin of talking in the next room. Amazon rule: all conversations must take place in front of the bird.
She is very active in her cage, loves petting but no hugging - very social as long as no one tries to touch her, prefers tall men above all - puts on a great show for them. She has happily adapted from at least five years of being virtually ignored to being adored, expanding me from a cat lady to a cat and bird person. (Stll waiting to pick up my first macaw, if Missy doesn't catch me at it!)
 

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I grew up with a DYH Amazon named E.T. My dad named him after E.T. in the movie, of course. My parents got him from a breeder when I was only four years old. He was super sweet as a baby, as baby birds tend to be. He would preen our hair and cuddle, and was a joy to be around.

The Bad: As he got older, his hormones kicked in big time. He was super hormonal during puberty. After that, he would still get very moody around hormone times, and would try to bite anyone and everyone frequently during those peak times. He was not allowed on the floor at that point either, as toes became a fun new thing to bite...hard. During this time, he also decided my dad was to be his mate. My parents didn't know about the benefits of flighted birds at the time, so E.T. was not flighted. Even though he couldn't fly, whenever my dad and my mom were in the same room, he would make every attempt to climb over to bite her. He was fast and because of this, he was sometimes successful. His bites were the latch on as hard as possible and don't let go kind. When my dad was at work, or out of sight, my mom could handle him and even pet him. I was only bitten by E.T. twice, but I remember it well. It may not be a Cockatoo bite, but it's certainly a memorable experience. I was just a kid when I got bite #1. It hurt like crazy, but I was fine. My arm was badly bruised and indented, but it healed up, and there was no scarring or anything. This happened during hormone season.

When I was 10, my mother had to send him up to my aunt's house because my dad was too sick to be around the dander anymore (doctor's orders). E.T. never got over my mom dropping him off at my aunt's. He stayed furiously angry at her, and I think he still would be to this day. Even though she did visit him and bring him back home, I'm sure he felt abandoned, and I can't say that I blame him. Not to mention, my dad was his absolute favorite person in the whole world, and E.T. was only able to come back after my dad had passed away. I'm positive he associated my mom with my dad's absence and blamed her for that too. He probably thought she had caused his whole world to be taken away, and I don't say this lightly, but it was easy to see that he absolutely hated her for it.

He then became my sister's bird, as my mom could no longer handle or go anywhere near him without him trying to attack her. When my older sister went away to college, I became his caregiver. I was somewhat afraid of him though, but I tried to give him what he needed to the best of my ability. At one point, I was holding him and my mom came upstairs. The second he saw her, he bit me so hard. That bite, unlike bite #1, bled a lot. I didn't understand Parrot behavior at that point, like I do now, so I became more fearful of him after that.

The Good: Even though I was afraid of him, I really loved that bird. After all, I had grown up with him. There was a lot to love about E.T. He had a huge vocabulary, and spoke so clearly for a Zon. He was able to sound exactly like my mom, to the point where my uncle thought my mom was home one time while we were on vacation. My uncle was fixing the water heater, and he told us E.T. said, "(My dad's name), is at the garage." That was one of his favorite phrases to say when my dad was either at work or not there. He would look out the window waiting for my dad when he said it too. He would even sing songs, including the whole Lion King theme song. He also said things like, "E.T. phone home, want a cracker, my name and middle name together, my mom's name, my sister's name and middle name together, bird, wanna come out," and a whole lot of other words and phrases. My mom taught him to sing instead of screaming, so he never screamed. He was such a fun bird to have around. You could see when he was excited (eye pinning and head tilt), and knew interacting from a distance was best at those moments. I still appreciate how strong and clear Amazon body language can be. I avoided many potential bites because of this.

Next, it was my turn to leave home, and there was no way for me to take E.T. with me, plus he was still my sister's bird. So, my mom tried to keep him until my sister was finished with college, but she knew it wasn't working. E.T. was locked in his cage for almost a year, because she still couldn't handle him at all anymore. He wasn't happy, so she ended up deciding it would be best to rehome him to my cousin. Unfortunately, after having E.T. for several years, my cousin decided to rehome him again. I seriously to this day wish I could have taken E.T. when he was going to rehome him, but at the time, I knew I just didn't have the means to do so. I still think about him often and miss him so much. I really hope he went to his forever home where he will be showered with all the time, care, attention, and love that he deserves.

If you're considering getting an Amazon, I think they're some of the most wonderful birds you could share your home and your life with, as long as you're adequately prepared and able to deal with the not-so-enjoyable (and sometimes downright hard) aspects of being an Amazon owner. Sometimes life happens and a new home is best for them. I really do understand that, but if possible, I don't want to see these guys going through multiple homes like E.T. had to. That's why I tried to be as honest with you as possible about what an Amazon could be like. Going through multiple homes is really hard on them, so please do a lot of research before getting one. Since you're reading this thread, you're already off to a great start.

I remember we had to have our feet up on the furniture when this was taken, and I think my mom was wearing a pair of thick slippers so her feet would not get bitten, but this was our special boy. I only hope I did justice to how wonderful he was, despite all the hormonal issues that he couldn't help. He was worth it.
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@Odette good read to start you off while people with Amazon answer for you
 

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Mexican Red Headed Amazon; Green Cheek Amazon; Red Crowned Amazon

The Good :angel2:

Merlin is very easy going about things, he's not a nervous bird. Very good natured, is basically happy to hang out w/me whatever I'm doing. I keep him up later at night, we always have because of our work. So he sleeps later in the morning & takes a good nap in the afternoon. He's very well socialized w/my DH, I'm his person, but Toms always been able to handle him too. He's happy w/alot of foot toys & soft undyed wood to chew.

We've never encouraged him to talk, but he has picked up around 40 words/phrases. He does understand alot of what he says & is able to create new phrases. Bad bird & Here Dawg became 'Bad Dog' :ittalks!:

He communicates w/his beak. :rolleyes:

The Bad :burp1:

Amazons always remember the 'bad' diet choices & would eat only seeds & human food if allowed. This is where I made my mistake, before I was educated about the proper diet for Merlin. He's absolutely the most stubborn animal I've ever dealt with, a good diet from day 1 is essential. He's actually went w/o eating all day waiting for my DH to come home for his 'seed fix'.

Although he's basically a quiet bird, his screams can make your brain pulse. :tmsmakesme:He does most of his screaming early morning & right before dusk. I'm sure our neighbors know he's here. He can be very destructive, pine wood work can be destroyed in just a few unsupervised minutes.

Very important to socialize them well w/new things early on, he's a bit phobic about moving things in his cage. He also takes awhile to get accustomed to new things, toys a couple of days, but the new boing I bought him took months. I take the blame for this, I should have been introducing new things all along

We do get frequent bites, usually just a warning, but sometimes bloody gashes. Ignore the obvious warning signs of a displeased amazon at your own peril. :scared4:

The Ugly :devil:

We've had our 1st few hormonal seasons & although its not been as bad as some I read about, we do have to be more careful during hormonal times. My DH cannot allow him near his face at all. He also doesnt touch me in front of him. :o: Flight attacks happen also, you really have to experience this to know where I'm coming from. He puts every gram of his weight into his attack & uses claws & beak. Although he's a smaller 'zon, he has alot of strength in that beak. He also has the intelligence to know just how to bite you for the maximum pain.
Hello There, I'm looking to get a baby Mexican Red Headed Amazon next week that is being hand fed and will be for a while. I'll be frequently visiting him/her. Did you get your MRHA when he was young? When did he start to frequently bite you?
 

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My two Amazons that I have at home are a Blue Fronted Lagatha and a Double Yellow Head Rhaenyra which I believe are females...
The good : they are beautiful and have the most colorful feathers...Ryaenyra talks ,laughs and sings and Lagatha is keeping her voice for calling and making lil weird noises...they are very lovely except if you want to touch them ...They eat well but not to many veggies which we are working on ..
The Bad : They are aggressive if you touch them ...eye pinning and tail flashing ...not the best veggie eaters but love their fruit , nuts and home made seed with some TOPS pellets ...
The Ugly: They bite hard when they are handled ...And Rhaeynra loves to shoot poo out the side of her cage ...
 

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My two Amazons that I have at home are a Blue Fronted Lagatha and a Double Yellow Head Rhaenyra which I believe are females...
The good : they are beautiful and have the most colorful feathers...Ryaenyra talks ,laughs and sings and Lagatha is keeping her voice for calling and making lil weird noises...they are very lovely except if you want to touch them ...They eat well but not to many veggies which we are working on ..
The Bad : They are aggressive if you touch them ...eye pinning and tail flashing ...not the best veggie eaters but love their fruit , nuts and home made seed with some TOPS pellets ...
The Ugly: They bite hard when they are handled ...And Rhaeynra loves to shoot poo out the side of her cage ...
Hello! You have 2 of the "hot 3" correct? Are they rescues or did you have them as babies that were handfed?
 

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...eye pinning and tail flashing .. ...And Rhaeynra loves to shoot poo out the side of her cage ...
Secret has both of those down to an art.
 

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Now that Puff has been with me for over three months I suppose I could finally post here

Puff is a YNA I'm not too sure how old he is but he should be at least 5 years old. He was previously in a hardware store along with many other parrots and fed a full sunflower seed diet + being chained to a metal stand 24/7. I've been visiting him for years and finally made the decision to buy him after realising that he had a lung infection with visible nasal discharge blocking his nostrils but the owner was oblivious to the cause and adamant that he will be fine. (the vet told me that he had severe lung infections and also liver problems due to his diet)

He is now recovered and went from 340g to 380g across these months and I'm hoping that his weight will stabilise around 400g as he still feels to be on the skinny side

The Good: He is surprisingly a shoulder/lap bird and will sit on me (and shizz on me) for hours on end while I do my work. When he's not noisy (which is most of the time) he does his own thing and is fine with me not being with him all the time even when I am at home.

He also loves showers and is also very chill with me and lets me handle him even in ways that he doesn't like (such as putting on a harness). He is also surprisingly open to a carrier and hopped in the first time I showed it to him.

He is less open to perches that come with a base especially those that aren't too big but also not too small and I have yet to get him to stand on those though he takes any type of normal perch quite fine.

Foodwise he is slightly picky but also not very picky and took to a pelleted diet quite fast as well as chop and fruits etc. He loves apple and will eat banana as well as blueberry and loves oatmeal too. He won't touch grapes and wasn't a fan of Intune pellets though now he seems to have taken a liking for them. In general if he sees that I ate it and likes it if I offer it to him he will be willing to try.

He is also quite open to new toys and loves to shred straw nets, cardboard, cork and other types of soft wood. Most of the time the new toys I get for him turns out to be something that will entertain him which is good.

Remember how I said he is a shoulder bird, he is also super affectionate and will run his head against mine and also preen my hair. That being said I do not recommend you to do this to any Amazon given the risks of having them in such close proximity to your face, it's just that me and him are bonded so I trust him and he trusts me. And back on the note of me handling him, I can check his feet and wings (he is moulting now and also has mild bumblefoot so I check his feet every once in a while to see if things are getting better).

Sometimes when I do my work I'll let him out and he'll do his own thing but also come over once in a while and stay here until I get scared that he's gonna shizz so I put him back. Then wait for some time and he'll come back again. Quite cute if you ask me. As mentioned he is moulting now so he spends a lot of time preening when he's on my shoulder and when I put him back I'll also realise that there is a bunch of dust and stuff on my shoulder that I have to clean but not gonna lie it is worth it.

How can you reject a cute fluffy green bean cosying up to you with the cutest sounds ever. Oh yes, did I mention the sounds? He is a great talker and came with some vocabulary already and also learnt I love you after he came here though he hasn't learnt anything else yet. But aside from that he makes the cutest sounds ever when he gets scritches and stuff and it's just heart melting.

His schedule also follows mine though I'll cover it's setup when I think it's too late and want him to sleep since I don't really have a sleep schedule per se. Most of the time he is not sleeping though I cover him. He gets at least 8-10 hours of sleep a day so I'm not too worried about that. But it's like nice knowing that he is there while I do my work late at night.

The Bad/Ugly: Did I mention the shizzting? He can and will shizz anywhere and everywhere. But that is true for all birds though it is once again a reminder for those who want to keep a parrot. Potty trained parrots do exist but most are not and will not be trained to do such things.

He also likes to chew things that he shouldn't chew, such as my phone case and my cables. I have banned him from my desk and moved all the wires away after realising that he had been chewing on them when I was away because his setup is in close proximity to my desk. Thank god he wasn't electrocuted.

He is also loud and begs to be in every conversation that I'm in. If I'm talking to someone else outside he will call for me especially if I just got home but didn't go and find him and he hears me. If I'm talking to someone on the phone next to him he will make noise as well and begs to be included.

Even without this prompt he will also have sprees where he just starts making your typical loud bird noises which can go up to 100 decibels (i measured) and hurts your ears.

At times when he does bite he can also easily draw blood or bruise you. He's nice to me so he has never bit me to his full capacity but bites to the joint does hurt for a week or so and same for bites that draw blood as they take around a week to heal as well. But those are mostly preventable so it's really just a give and a take if you decide that it is worth it to test his patience.

He is also quite possessive at times and in fact has taken severe distaste against this chicken plushie that I have and put on my lap at times. He will make it a point to come from his setup over to where I'm at so that he can attack the chicken and will bite me if I try to stop him. But once I move that chicken away from me he is suddenly ok with the chicken.

He is also a one-person bird and would attack anyone else who comes close to him but he will warn them and nor will he make it an active point to attack people. He will hiss and also retreat when someone comes close with the typical eye pinning which makes it very apparent that he wants them to back off. Amazons have a very obvious body language so it is easy to avoid a bite.

But regardless, I am tremendously glad that I have him in my life and that I can wake up and go home knowing that he's there. And as a finishing note, he'll say hello when I come back. How cute is that?
 
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