I researched it forever. I used sweet gum, and smooth Sumac. You should have seen me on the computer with leaves and bark, trying to match it to a tree, just to be sure. The other tree is very old, dried, kinda like drift wood, I found it by a creek. I went in the woods yesterday, got scratched up with blackberry briars and almost had a heat stroke. It is still very hot in South Alabama! I will take some pictures in a few minutes and post them. I am afraid someone is gonna get stuck by it or poked in the eye. I'm thinking I need to trim it back some.