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oh dear we are in the "other" catagory again.

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Emmilyy

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oh my gosh what a beautiful bird! i wish i could meet one in person!
 

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Wow, so beautiful! I've never seen a vasa before! Thanks for sharing pics!
 

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Eve is beautiful! But I am confused,is he male or female? You say 'her' but in the link it says he's a male.edit:you also say 'his'
 

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lol Eve is a he, but I'm so used to calling him a her....hence eve the gender confused vasa parrot.
 

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poor vasa people......

Anyway, since poor little eve has no designated section, I thought we would share some pics and such here, sort of a separate Eve intro......I'll show some pics of the changes that vasa's go through. They are very different birds than most and are often misunderstood in terms of behavior. The normal rules do not apply to vasa's. For one thing.....they will hunt small prey, dive like a hawk, fly backwards, and hover. I know of one guy who's vasa out flies his cooper hawk!

In a nut shell they are like a cross between raptors and parrots....but really dopey in personality. I say they are as playful as a caique, intelligent as a grey, and as snuggly as a Too.

look at the beak and cere color differences, white beak for breeding season black for not breeding season. Cere does the same but is always opposite the beak. One pic is of the yellow skin color change underneath his beak. One pic, eve holding his own feather, shows the brown feather color change that happens without moulting.

Enjoy!

OH and the last one is a bit pornographic.....it shows the start of his hemi junk....:huh:
Wow, great pictures!! He is very handsome:) I don't ever see them available or hear people talk about them much. Are they pretty rare?
 

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yes and no....their are a couple of breeders in the US, but vasa's a odd when it comes to breeding, so you are on a waiting list for them. Some times a group of vasa's will be prolific, other years a dominate pair will be established and only that pair will breed.

In the wild vasa's are free lovin hippies. One female will have several males to attend to her. But in captivity things become rather screwy. Why breeders do not try to breed them like they would in the wild is beyond me, but they don't. Like other parrots they try to pair them up. So.....breeding becomes a "who knows" issue with respects to consistency and chicks.

On the whole vasa breeders aggravate me. They seem to think that they can feed and raise vasa's like all other parrots when in fact this does great harm to them behavioral, and nutritionally.
 

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Wow! cool bird. thanks for sharing. How are the nutritional needs different? I never realized how big they were. Loved the pictures.
 

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Well, vasa's do not do well on an all pellet diet. They will hunts if necessary in the wild. And protein has a huge effect on the behavior. Lack of protein makes for an angry vasa. and they will hunt small birds, or attack the cat, or head hunt the humans. Their needs are different during different times of the years. More protein before breeding season, more A, and high fat when moulting......They need more fat than other birds, most vasa's have a hard time gaining weight. So extra carbs, and fats are important.

eve gets a 95% fresh diet and 5% pellets, some form of animal protein 3 times a week, depending on the time of the year.
 

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Astounding species and bird you have, Kimba. Very interesting information. Definitely looking forward to more info and stories of Eve! :cool4: :heart:
 

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wowwwwwwwwwwwwwstunning....as for other...heck if that is other I want an other...SPECTACULAR
 

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lol Eve is a he, but I'm so used to calling him a her....hence eve the gender confused vasa parrot.

Perhaps it snot really him who is confused ;) ;) ;):hehe:

I think ERve is such an amazing little guy. And WOW look at his feathers and look!

The hemipenes are very neat an weird. Very reptile like. In other parrots, tat would be caled a prolapse cloaca when their male parts come out. But in males vasas their pats come out. Females shed their head feathers like a vulture, and have a nice yellow head:cool1:

I have always wanted a male and female vasa.:D
 

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In the wild vasa's are free lovin hippies. One female will have several males to attend to her. But in captivity things become rather screwy. Why breeders do not try to breed them like they would in the wild is beyond me, but they don't. Like other parrots they try to pair them up. So.....breeding becomes a "who knows" issue with respects to consistency and chicks.
Many breeders recommend pairing a female up with more than one male, it has proven to be easier on the males during the breeding season, and usually become more prolific.

On the whole vasa breeders aggravate me. They seem to think that they can feed and raise vasa's like all other parrots when in fact this does great harm to them behavioral, and nutritionally.
What do you mean? How should you/ should you not raise them?
 

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ok here are some more......last one (i think) is an other hemi-junk shot. Just trying to show what the other pic of it turns into....not for the faint of heart.







Holy crap!! I have NEVER seen anything like this!!
 

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Gorgeous Fid you have there! I have never even heard of them. Thanks for sharing the pictures and I so look forward to hear more about them! :D
 

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Very pretty boy!! I have a friend that has a Vasa!!
 

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Miriam..Miriam...tch...:rofl::rofl:
 

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Mercedez...."Many breeders recommend pairing a female up with more than one male, it has proven to be easier on the males during the breeding season, and usually become more prolific."

That is how it should be!!!!!!! In the wild, one female to many males.
I get upset because vasa's do need animal protein on the account of the fact that they occasionally hunt in the wild, they do NOT do well on a seed or pellet diet. Their behavior is very different than other parrots. Many baby vasa's are deficient in protein when giving a cbc when their new owners take them for their wellness exam. And 3 of the breeders that I know of in the US, do NOT breed according to their wild habits, they pair them up. This leads to unpredictable behavior. I'll give the link to my research...it's too long to post.

grab a cup of coffee for this!
but it should answer some questions, when you think about how breeders typical function....
Vasa Life - Breeding System
Vasa Life - Breeding Behavior
 
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