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Frankiemom

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Frankie is 14, I'm his 3rd mom and he's my second parrot. Kiwi, my Quaker died last October and I adopted Frankie from a home where he was being neglected. He was on a crappy Walmart parrot food diet. Here, he gets chop in the morning and a really good seed/pellet mix in the late afternoon. He'll step up if he's away from his cage, but if he's in or on his cage, no way. Any advice y'all have to help with that, I'd be so grateful! I talk, read & sing to him every day & his reactions are so sweet!
 

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Frankie is cute. Welcome.

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:welcome2: @Frankiemom and the lovely Frankie! I so love Orange-wings!!

That’s great he’ll step up away from the cage. Will he stay on your hand if you carry him to the cage and put him inside? I just had the idea of getting him used to being on your hand near or around the cage even if it’s traveling the other way!

I’ve written a couple of articles on how to train a parrot to step up which might be helpful:



I also have a fairly recently rehomed Orange-winged Amazon called JoeJoe. He too was reluctant to step up - from anywhere in his case. I have found that he adores head scratches and kind talking, so I use those to encourage him to step up. To get him to step up from inside his cage, I first give him head scratches through the bars, then open the door slowly and gently place my other hand near him, then lure him on with head scratches. Another reinforcer which might work for Frankie is a favourite treat!

Of course it may not matter that you can’t get him to step up from inside his cage - I usually just open the cage doors and everybirdie can climb out on their own.

They do make the cutest sounds, don’t they? :heart:
 
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:welcome2: @Frankiemom and the lovely Frankie! I so love Orange-wings!!

That’s great he’ll step up away from the cage. Will he stay on your hand if you carry him to the cage and put him inside? I just had the idea of getting him used to being on your hand near or around the cage even if it’s traveling the other way!

I’ve written a couple of articles on how to train a parrot to step up which might be help
:welcome2: @Frankiemom and the lovely Frankie! I so love Orange-wings!!

That’s great he’ll step up away from the cage. Will he stay on your hand if you carry him to the cage and put him inside? I just had the idea of getting him used to being on your hand near or around the cage even if it’s traveling the other way!

I’ve written a couple of articles on how to train a parrot to step up which might be helpful:



I also have a fairly recently rehomed Orange-winged Amazon called JoeJoe. He too was reluctant to step up - from anywhere in his case. I have found that he adores head scratches and kind talking, so I use those to encourage him to step up. To get him to step up from inside his cage, I first give him head scratches through the bars, then open the door slowly and gently place my other hand near him, then lure him on with head scratches. Another reinforcer which might work for Frankie is a favourite treat!

Of course it may not matter that you can’t get him to step up from inside his cage - I usually just open the cage doors and everybirdie can climb out on their own.

They do make the cutest sounds, don’t they? :heart:

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I also have a fairly recently rehomed Orange-winged Amazon called JoeJoe. He too was reluctant to step up - from anywhere in his case. I have found that he adores head scratches and kind talking, so I use those to encourage him to step up. To get him to step up from inside his cage, I first give him head scratches through the bars, then open the door slowly and gently place my other hand near him, then lure him on with head scratches. Another reinforcer which might work for Frankie is a favourite treat!

Of course it may not matter that you can’t get him to step up from inside his cage - I usually just open the cage doors and everybirdie can climb out on their own.

They do make the cutest sounds, don’t they? :heart:
I've only had him on my hand 3x when he left his cage and got himself where he needed a lift going back. I am going to try to lure him away from cage and try working with his new carrier. He's been with me about a month & bc I haven't been able to get him to step up, we haven't been to the vet. Am about to check out the lessons you so graciously sent. I'd love to hear what you have to say about getting him in the carrier and making a trip to the vet!
 

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Will say more about the carrier later, but for now, leave the carrier within his sight so that he gets used to it.

Gradually bring it closer and closer to his main “hanging out” area, whether that’s his main cage or play stand, over the next few days so that he becomes desensitised to it. Watch his body language and move it only as close as he is relaxed/comfortable with (it may take longer than a few days). You want to be pairing the carrier’s presence with a feeling of relaxation for him.

If he’s curious he might start investigating on his own which is a great plus. Hang some favourite toys inside and outside to make it more appealing.

Will return with more later.
 

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By the way you can see how a Panama Amazon differs to an Orange-wing in my signature (I believe it’s only visible if you are on a computer rather than a phone). Chico is my elderly Panama, and JoeJoe and Ollie are Orange-wings. :)
 

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Actually I've just found an unfinished article I wrote on Crate Training. I just need to find and add the pictures, then I'll post it on my website. It may take a couple of days. I'll post a link here when it's done. It's essentially using "shaping" which is breaking down the final behaviour you want to see (entering the carrier and remaining relaxed as you close the door) into small, manageable approximations or steps which are reinforced (treats works well) along the way. Another method is to lure the bird towards and then inside the carrier with treats. For the moment work on desensitising him to the sight of it.
 

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Welcome! I’ll be interested how Amazons compare to the Quaker parakeet.

i wish you many years of happiness with your (bigger) little green friend. I hear that Amazons enjoy music and singing. They seem like fun birds but have lots of beak and mood. I would love to experience an Amazon parrot some day.

p.s. I got my Quaker Lucy to be happy about entering her carrier with treats and exciting adventures. Of course I felt like a traitor when I took her to the vet…but it was usually a happy experience involving lots of admirers and treats.
 

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Welcome! I’ll be interested how Amazons compare to the Quaker parakeet.

i wish you many years of happiness with your (bigger) little green friend. I hear that Amazons enjoy music and singing. They seem like fun birds but have lots of beak and mood. I would love to experience an Amazon parrot some day.

p.s. I got my Quaker Lucy to be happy about entering her carrier with treats and exciting adventures. Of course I felt like a traitor when I took her to the vet…but it was usually a happy experience involving lots of admirers and treats.
My Quaker Kiwi was really outgoing and friendly compared to Frankie. Stepped up almost immediately and was really active. Frankie loves looking out the window and chatters at things he sees. It's really sweet. I've found that he'll gladly step up if he's away from his cage. But if he's in or on his cage, no touching. After about 6 weeks, I can reach past him without him threatening to bite. He's getting a bigger cage this weekend. A good 10" wider & 3 or 4" deeper. I hope having a bigger flight cage will help him. Thanks for reaching out!! I'd love to hear more about your baby!
 

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Lucy Quaker was very old and debilitated and passed away at almost 25, three years ago. She was an enormous ham and went to so many block parties, music festivals, etc. Willow has been with me for just three years and is a very different bird—snuggly and wants to cuddle with my face every day. But I’ve not taken him to a block party. He is rather bashful.
I am happy Willow is blue and not green because he doesn’t look quite so much like my girl.
Jasper the Meyers parrot is Willows sibling/ cousin, though they’re not allowed to visit. Willow is quite in awe of her, which is as it should be.
 

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