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Is my female pregnant?

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Hi! I have recently bought 2 budgies, a male and a female. Well unexpectedly they fell in love with each other right away!! I have never had birds myself, but my husband has had them when he was growing up.
Anyways with much research I realized I had better get a nesting box!
These two are always preening each other and will ‘kiss’ on my command now! (Been only 2 weeks since they have been here)! They display love to each other constantly which has melted my heart!
I am not sure if they have done the deed yet but the male ‘Sky’ is practicing regurgitation with the female ‘daisy’.
I have been closely inspecting their behaviour and am now wondering if she is pregnant?!
She seems more full on her bottom end and has a distinct line from her butt up her abdomen.. (sorry I don’t know all the terminology yet).
What signs should I look for, or be aware of, for their safety.
Any help would be great!! They are truly beautiful!!!
 

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Please cool your jets.
Take away the nest box. They don't need it. Just because birds are displaying bonded behaviors doesn't mean they need to be encouraged to breed, and most birds really shouldn't. Having a nest box just for the "fun" of it can lead to a whole host of behavioral problems and health risks.

Your birds are entirely too young to breed - it looks to me as if the baby bars haven't even receded fully on their foreheads - and if you purchased them from the same place, there's a good chance they may even be related.

I'm sorry, but two weeks is nothing. You are are far too inexperienced to even consider breeding. Take more time, do more research. Having pet birds is not about churning out eggs.
 

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Hi Zaphradoo, and Welcome!

About 4 years ago I bought two budgies at the local chain pet store. Turns out, they are both male--thankfully. I have never owned a female bird, but from the short time I've been a member here, there are inherent dangers to being an egg-laying bird. I'm, frankly, profoundly relieved that I have two males.

I'm sure this advice you have gotten here is not exactly what you wanted to hear, and I'm sorry. I have learned so much in a short period of time. I hope you will take the time to read and read and read! I look forward to watching your story here unfold :)
 

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Welcome to the Avenue Holly! 1.welcome signs.gif

Beautiful birds - they look quite happy together :)

I would refrain from putting in a nest box at the moment.
If she lays any eggs on the cage floor, they can be removed.

It is important, if thinking of breeding, to research well, have a vet check up, be on a suitable diet for a good 6 months, find yourself a mentor (someone you can count on, hands on, for guidance), have a brooder, heat source and all the equipment, as well as being taught first hand how to hand feed a young chick. Tips For Breeders

What signs should I look for, or be aware of, for their safety.
Things that are abnormal. Like;
-sitting fluffed up
-lethargy
-loss of appetite
-loss of balance
-inability to perch
-tail bobbing
-excessive sleeping/low mobility
-breathing open beaked
-lack of poop/odd poops - Is your bird suffering from poopology - All about bird droppings

Information on egg binding;
(sounds scary, but it´s just something to be aware of - plenty of exercise (flight), and a balanced diet will help keep your bird fit, reducing the chances of this)
 

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All I see is normal friendly bonding behaviour, nothing sexual.
By the way, the green one is male and the blue looks female. Not exactly what you were expecting?
:welave:
 

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Hi @Zaphradoo, welcome to the avenue!
Yeah, they are way too young to breed. That all is just bonding, it’s normal. My budgies do it too and Spring hasn’t laid an egg (yet). As these are your first birds, I’m sorry but you are probably too inexperienced to breed. This is why I haven’t bred myself. Please take away their nesting box, it may pressure them to breed which is really not good for them at this age. Daisy doesn’t look like he is going to lay an egg (ever), because he is a he.
 

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So as others have said, you are totally not prepared to allow your birds to breed.
Here is a template that I use on another popular website, and I think it fits here in this situation quite well. It's worded a little stronger than I would normally talk to people on this forum ('cause you all are awesome!), so hopefully it doesn't come off as too rude. ;) The other forum is full of idiots that make my blood boil.



There is a LOT that goes into breeding Budgies, and you need to do your research before you even begin to think about breeding them. Just because they are small and sometimes inexpensive, doesn’t mean they don’t deserve the same attention, dedication, and hard work that it takes to breed show dogs, rare cats, or even prized race horses.

We don't need more backyard “breeders” in this world. And I use the term “breeder” loosely here, because most of these people don't even know how to sex their own birds, don’t know anything about genetics or mutations, or simply don’t know what to do in an emergency breeding situation.

Here is a list of things you need to think of before you even CONSIDER breeding.

1). Are your birds proper breeding age? (Older than 1 year, but younger than 4 years old.)
- Breeding birds that are not the appropriate age will lead to issues/death of your birds and/or chicks.


2). Has each bird been vet checked and given a FULL bill of clean health?
- It is extremely important to only breed strong and healthy birds with no health issues that can be passed down to the chicks.


3). Are your birds on a good healthy diet? One that consists of pellets, seeds, fresh veggies, fruit, fresh sprouts, high calcium and protein?
- It’s important to have your birds eating a good diet BEFORE breeding. This will help keep their weight and energy up during the breeding process, and these good eating habits will be passed down to their chicks.


4). Do you have a proper breeding cage?
- A breeding cage needs to have enough space, natural perches, and a side door to attach a nest box on the OUTSIDE of the cage.


5). Do you have a proper nest box?
- A nest box needs to be mounted on the outside of the cage, it needs a concave bottom, and it needs to have easy access to be cleaned out DAILY.


6). Do you have proper nesting material?
- Pine or aspen wood shavings are proper nesting materials and they help keep the nest dry and clean. Wood shavings need to be replaced every day to help keep the nest sanitary for the chicks.


7). Do you recognize the signs of egg binding?
- Egg binding is a serious concern for a hen. It is an emergency situation and needs vet care immediately. It is a terrible and painful way for a hen to die.


8). Do you have an avian vet nearby in case of egg binding or complications with the chicks?
- Knowing where your avian vet is located is very important before breeding. You don’t want to be frantically searching for one if you are in the middle of an emergency with your birds.


9). If the hen rejects her chicks, do you have the ability to take time off work/school/extracurricular activities/social events?
- Chicks will need to be fed every 2-3 hours until they are weaned. This can take 4-6 WEEKS! You can not skip feedings, you can not delay feedings, you can not forget feedings. Your chicks lives are entirely depending on you, so you must be willing to put your own life on hold until they are grown.


10). Do you have someone (preferably a vet) to teach you how to hand feed if the parents reject the chicks?
-This is very delicate work and a chick can easily aspirate and die if you don’t know what you are doing.


11). Do you have a place to set up a brood box or an incubator if you have to take the young from the parents?


12). Do you have emergency hand feeding supplies?

- Incubator, high quality formula, syringes, spoons, thermometer, digital scale, ect.


13). Do you have the expendable income to afford supplies?
- If you can’t afford to purchase these items BEFORE breeding, then don’t breed!


14). If you’re a minor, do you have a support system behind you that is willing to pay for the cost of breeding supplies, vet visits, emergency supplies?
- Parents must be willing to help pay for anything that your breeding birds may need. If you’re parents are not willing to pay, then don’t breed!


15). If the hen starts to attack her chicks (this happens more often than you think) do you have a separate cage for her?
- If a hen wants to start a new clutch while she still has chicks in the nest, she will start to attack them and will need to be removed from the breeding cage before she kills them.


16). Do you have a large weaning cage for the chicks when they start exploring outside the nest box?
- Chicks will need to have a large cage with lots of natural perches, toys, foraging toys, and a wide variety of foods to try. This is an important time in a chick’s life where they learn how to be a budgie. They learn how to perch, fly, forage, acrobatics, ect.


17). Do you have homes lined up for your chicks?
- Depending on your location, it may be difficult to find homes for all your chicks.


18). Do you have space to keep all the chicks in your home?
- If you can’t find homes for your chicks, are you willing to keep them in your own home, in appropriate size cages?


19). If a chick doesn’t work out in its new home, are you willing and able to accept it back into your home?
- Sometimes new owners decide that having a budgie just isn’t for them and may want to return the bird back to the breeder. If you can’t accept the bird back, it will likely end up in a rescue, the SPCA, or even worse.


20). Are you prepared for potential heartbreak?
-Because “stuff happens”, even to the best breeders. You can easily loose the chicks and the parents if you are not prepared for the worst.


If you cannot firmly answer YES to all of these questions... DO NOT BREED YOUR DAMN BIRDS!

Budgies are living, breathing and feeling creatures and your inability to provide the best possible environment will harm them and any other birds you bring into the world. Stop letting your birds breed for "funsies".
 

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@Zaphradoo Holly please don't be afraid to respond, no-one is judging you. This is probably the best place on the planet for free, accurate advice. No-one here regrets signing up.
 
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Hi Zaphradoo, and Welcome!

About 4 years ago I bought two budgies at the local chain pet store. Turns out, they are both male--thankfully. I have never owned a female bird, but from the short time I've been a member here, there are inherent dangers to being an egg-laying bird. I'm, frankly, profoundly relieved that I have two males.

I'm sure this advice you have gotten here is not exactly what you wanted to hear, and I'm sorry. I have learned so much in a short period of time. I hope you will take the time to read and read and read! I look forward to watching your story here unfold :)
Thanks! I was unknowingly at the time which sex they were, until after. I don’t believe she is pregnant thankfully. But if it does happen I will be prepared to face whatever happens!!
 

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Hi @Zaphradoo, welcome to the avenue!
Yeah, they are way too young to breed. That all is just bonding, it’s normal. My budgies do it too and Spring hasn’t laid an egg (yet). As these are your first birds, I’m sorry but you are probably too inexperienced to breed. This is why I haven’t bred myself. Please take away their nesting box, it may pressure them to breed which is really not good for them at this age. Daisy doesn’t look like he is going to lay an egg (ever), because he is a he.
really? Is daisy a male?!! Lol I didn’t know males were affectionate with each other!! Interesting!!!
I agree though now that I have learned more. I will remove the nesting box today. And just enjoy their beauty with out the stress of the idea of mating!!
Thanks so much!!
 

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Welcome to the Avenue Holly! View attachment 355464

Beautiful birds - they look quite happy together :)

I would refrain from putting in a nest box at the moment.
If she lays any eggs on the cage floor, they can be removed.

It is important, if thinking of breeding, to research well, have a vet check up, be on a suitable diet for a good 6 months, find yourself a mentor (someone you can count on, hands on, for guidance), have a brooder, heat source and all the equipment, as well as being taught first hand how to hand feed a young chick. Tips For Breeders


Things that are abnormal. Like;
-sitting fluffed up
-lethargy
-loss of appetite
-loss of balance
-inability to perch
-tail bobbing
-excessive sleeping/low mobility
-breathing open beaked
-lack of poop/odd poops - Is your bird suffering from poopology - All about bird droppings

Information on egg binding;
(sounds scary, but it´s just something to be aware of - plenty of exercise (flight), and a balanced diet will help keep your bird fit, reducing the chances of this)
Thanks so much!! I am glad I found this group! Great advice!!
 

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Except for all those people who deleted their accounts... but yes otherwise I agree completely! :agreed:
In the eleven years that this forum has been around, it has amassed more than 20,000 members. Of them, I doubt that more than a dozen have had their accounts "deleted", and even those members' posts remain on the forum for others to learn from.
 

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Please cool your jets.
Take away the nest box. They don't need it. Just because birds are displaying bonded behaviors doesn't mean they need to be encouraged to breed, and most birds really shouldn't. Having a nest box just for the "fun" of it can lead to a whole host of behavioral problems and health risks.

Your birds are entirely too young to breed - it looks to me as if the baby bars haven't even receded fully on their foreheads - and if you purchased them from the same place, there's a good chance they may even be related.

I'm sorry, but two weeks is nothing. You are are far too inexperienced to even consider breeding. Take more time, do more research. Having pet birds is not about churning out eggs.


I completely understand and have had different opinions from people. I have removed the nesting box and now am questioning if indeed ‘Daisy’ the female? ( yellow) may be a male???
I am not the kind of person that would be naive to their needs. I was only told that if in fact they were to mate I NEED a nesting box or egg would be dropped and probably die. I would have felt bad. Anyhow, the box is gone now and am reading everyday to learn of what stages they are at and what needs.
 

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Just please keep your pretty budgies safe and happy and they will reward you with their antics. Budgies are so much fun but breeding them is a whole different scenario. Best of luck.
 

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Just please keep your pretty budgies safe and happy and they will reward you with their antics. Budgies are so much fun but breeding them is a whole different scenario. Best of luck.
Thanks so much!! Yes I definitely agree!! In such a short period of time these two have had our family learn lessons of love! We are always going “aw” Look how cute they are!! And “they are kissing!!” For such a tiny species, they max out in the love department!!!!! ❤
 

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Such ridiculously cute babies! The kissing thing is just... :loveshower:

Glad you took the nesting box out, and hey, don't feel bad, nobody's perfect! Most people here didn't start out knowing absolutely everything!

Be sure to keep us updated with their lovely budgie antics! :welcomeavenue:
 

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Most people here didn't start out knowing absolutely everything!
I think we can all agree with that. Most of us still don't, but what we don't know is just just a few key taps away.
 
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