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I’m a young person looking for my first pet bird

Rhysilius

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Hello everyone, I’d like to know how I’m doing on my schedule
I have around 3 hours a day to spend with the bird
it will live outside in an aviary (with safety precautions to protect it from my pet dog and cat and wild birds) in 1.5x1.5x2 meters WxDxH
can go bigger by the way
looking for a bird that will like me AND tolerate my friends and family.
NOT TOO NOISY (my dad doesn’t like noisy birds within reason of course) aka a lot of squawking
id Appreciate it so much if you could give me a few suggestions or give me even just 1. I cannot tell you how much a bird could help me (struggling with a lack of self esteem and anxiety) so I’ve been looking for a companion that’ll keep me occupied while also being rewarding. I know how challenging a bird can be. Which is why I’m preparing years before I get one. and please give me any things to know about the birds you suggest. And if there are no birds suitable with my preferences I’ll go over it with my family
 
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Whereabouts do you live I know uk had not sure if it still does had a lot of restrictions of birds being outside because of bird flu

@Shezbug I am sure as a cockatoo in an aviary outside so hopefully she could give you some tips
 

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I guess tell us a few more specifics -

What size bird are you looking for? What's too big, or too small?

Where are you located? Will the aviary be a year-round enclosure for the bird?

Three hours is not really enough time to spend with a bird, so this bird will need to be more than "tolerant" of family and/or friends. How much time can your family devote to the bird?

Not all birds of the "talkative" species talk. Some just don't. Are you and your father prepared for that? Are there exceptions (ie: "If it's [particular species] it's fine if it is squawky")?
 

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I have around 3 hours a day to spend with the bird
live outside in an aviary
1.5x1.5x2 meters
will like me AND tolerate my friends and family.
NOT TOO NOISY
I cannot tell you how much a bird could help me (struggling with a lack of self esteem and anxiety
Unfortunately, I think that there are too many unrealistic expectations here. And to find a bird that checks all of these boxes is incredibly unlikely.

Birds are noisy, messy, hard work, self centered, and wild. They need space, interaction, enrichment, funds to care for them, their health and their wellbeing, and the freedom to make as much noise as they please.

Someone I respect greatly wrote this, and I want to share it here because it applies. This is a little bit of what birds are like;

1. Birds never advance intellectually past the age of 2-5.
2. Birds never advance emotionally beyond the age of two.
3. A bird may learn to associate a few words with objects or actions, but will never speak your language nor understand what you are saying.
4. Birds need to be kept in a cage, when you aren't right there with them. For their safety, because they do not know and cannot be taught that many items are harmful or deadly.
5. A bird will chose someone else as their favorite in a second.
6. Birds are the most self centered, selfish, unconcerned about you, animal I have ever owned and I have owned many pets in my 80 years of life.
7. Birds have no feelings whatsoever for you favorite things and will destroy them with gusto and no guilt.
I think this therad could be helpful for you;
 

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If you want a "tame" bird to interact with you and your family, an outside aviary isn't going to work full time. Also, some birds find outdoor aviaries scary. If you can't have the bird inside, I would think about getting a different pet. Also, keep in mind birds can live a long time. So does you family want this bird? Are they going to take care of him if you go away to school, etc?
 

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Hi
Whereabouts do you live I know uk had not sure if it still does had a lot of restrictions of birds being outside because of bird flu

@Shezbug I am sure as a cockatoo in an aviary outside so hopefully she could give you some tips
I live in qld Australia
 

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Unfortunately, I think that there are too many unrealistic expectations here. And to find a bird that checks all of these boxes is incredibly unlikely.

Birds are noisy, messy, hard work, self centered, and wild. They need space, interaction, enrichment, funds to care for them, their health and their wellbeing, and the freedom to make as much noise as they please.

Someone I respect greatly wrote this, and I want to share it here because it applies. This is a little bit of what birds are like;



I think this therad could be helpful for you;
tahnk you! I’ll check it out
 

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@AussieBird might have insights. She’s in Australia too & has indoor birds + an aviary bird.
 

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You can have a good relationship with an aviary bird but there's a lot of factors and time that goes into it. It doesn't happen over night, can take months before you can hand them a treat let alone touch them. It is also heavily influenced by your bird though, hand-raised or parent-raised? Bred in an outdoor aviary or indoors with a hands on breeder? Does it like people at all or is it terrified? Baby or adult? What species?
If you happen to start with a friendly sociable bird, you'll have passed quite a few hurdles. I've not started with friendly birds so only know the one side of it.
Something to keep in mind when trying to maintain a bond with an aviary bird is that unlike with an indoor bird the amount of time you can spend with your bird can easily be influenced by the weather. You need to be prepared to spend some time with them even when it's super hot or cold, sometimes even when it's raining.
Your family is going to have to be quite committed too, to form a bond with the bird. My aviary bird does not have very much socialisation because non of my family is particularly interested in him. I could probably get some of them to visit him and he has been fed by some of them before, but it wouldn't be often enough for him to get over his initial fear of them.

Is there a particular size bird you are looking for? I'm bad at visualising sizes so maybe I'm wrong, but the aviary size you mentioned isn't the biggest so I don't recommend you go with something very big.
 
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