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I've also been told not to use the self cleaning option on ovens.

I had a friend who lost her Grey and several canaries. It does happen. With her it was a roaster she'd been using for years. A cold thanksgiving, oven blasting all day, they closed all the windows and minutes later her birds fell dead to the cage bottoms. Her canaries first, followed by her Gray. She was devastated.
YIKES!!! I've been using the self-clean option on my oven to heat the kitchen for Oliver to keep him warm while he dries after showering. Thank goodness nothing happened to him.
 

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I just got an EdenPure space heater and promptly emailed the company regarding Teflon. They answered within one day that no teflon is used in their manufacturing process ever. I must say, it's a great portable heater with a thermostat and remote. No hot parts accessible - birds could land right on it without any problem. I highly recommend it.
So glad to have verification of this. I'm struggling to find an electric burner without. Manufacturers can provide little to no verification. Two different reps. from one answered separately, one saying "yes," the other "no." What?!
We have an EdenPure we live by in the winter. Great to know they're safe!
Thanks!
 

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I want a new toaster oven and one that I found was highly recommended and has no teflon but it has been discontinued. I did find this Kitchenaid Can This Teflon-Free Toaster Oven Protect Your Health? - GreatToasters with a ceramic interior that is supposed to be nonstick but no teflon/PTFE. However that interior still concerns me. I really would just like one with a stainless steel interior.
 

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YIKES!!! I've been using the self-clean option on my oven to heat the kitchen for Oliver to keep him warm while he dries after showering. Thank goodness nothing happened to him.
I am glad he is okay. My oven came with a warning about not using the slfe clean feature if you have pet birds.
 

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Hi. I want a Cuisinart Airfryer Toaster Oven. It says nonstick interior so I changed my mind but the interior looks like mine. Silver. I looked up my model number and it says nonstick also. I didn’t realize it and I’ve used this toaster oven for four years! Is it a different kind of nonstick? I have 4 birds and I can’t believe nonstick is still in existence. It’s so frustrating.
 

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Are the ceramic non-stick pans safe? They say no ptfe ... but its still non-stick so I am not sure if its safe
Ceramic cookware is safe; it's just earthenware, or aluminum with a ceramic coating. Ceramic requires no PTFE to be non-stick.
 

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I have been using ceramic skillets from Walmart and a ceramic airfryer
 

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Wow. I wish I had known this before my beloved Kuckoo passed away suddenly. I don’t cook on pans containing, only high quality 7-layer stainless steel.

However I just realized that the day before his passing, I purchased a NEW bird water unit. Plastic. There is a chance it has a coating on it. I was gonna throw it out, as it was on sale for $1.34. If I find that is does have a coating, I will file a lawsuit against this company which I’ll name later. First thing in the morning, I am starting my investigation.

Wish I would have known this sooner.
 
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Wow. I wish I had known this before my beloved Kuckoo passed away suddenly. I don’t cook on pans containing, only high quality 7-layer stainless steel.

However I just realized that the day before his passing, I purchased a NEW bird water unit. Plastic. There is a chance it has a coating on it. I was gonna throw it out, as it was on sale for $1.34. If I find that is does have a coating, I will file a lawsuit against this company which I’ll name later. First thing in the morning, I am starting my investigation.

Wish I would have known this sooner.
 

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Wow. I wish I had known this before my beloved Kuckoo passed away suddenly. I don’t cook on pans containing, only high quality 7-layer stainless steel.

However I just realized that the day before his passing, I purchased a NEW bird water unit. Plastic. There is a chance it has a coating on it. I was gonna throw it out, as it was on sale for $1.34. If I find that is does have a coating, I will file a lawsuit against this company which I’ll name later. First thing in the morning, I am starting my investigation.

Wish I would have known this sooner.

When you say bird water unit are you talking about a type of water bowl for your bird?
 

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When you say bird water unit are you talking about a type of water bowl for your bird?
Yes, it is a cylindrical tube that holds about 8oz. of water. When filling, a valve opens with gravity, allowing it to be filled. When the cylinder is tipped over, it won’t spill out. There is a small actuator that gets released when the tube it inserted into the corresponding cup holder (attached to side of cage that easily removes for daily cleaning), allowing water to fill into the “U” area.

What I didn’t realize at first was the sound that he made when he “pecked” at the “U” area. Turns out THERE IS a thin coating on the plastic. He must have swallowed a tiny piece of the coating. I am assuming at this point it is of Teflon in it’s making. Further inspection is warranted, and I am taking it to a veterinarian to have looked at.

So, disappointed and heart broken over his loss, and will ONLY use ceramic bowls, or stainless cups from now on with Sunshine.

I feel so guilty it hurts.
 

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So sorry to hear about everyone's loss of their precious babies. In Oliver's main cage I use a large water bottle that is commonly used for rabbits. It's mainly all plastic with the spout being metal with a large metal ball bearing in the spout to keep the water from spilling out. I just cover the bottle to keep light from hitting it since I've found there to be a very slight green film (possibly algae from the sunlight coming in from the kitchen window). The water bottle holds enough water that lasts approximately one month.
 

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@Veganature if your bottle is made by Lixit, I know the plastic is safe because I called them once to ask about what type of plastic they use. Your bird should get their water changed once a day, and you definitely needs to wash your water bottle every day very thoroughly including inside the spout. Once a week you should disinfect it too.
 

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Hi Tiel Feathers. Are you absolutely sure about the water bottle? I've been using it for years and Oliver gets regular checkups by his Avian Specialist and he's had a clean bill of health each time. I clean his water bottle approximately every 4 weeks when I refill his bottle with bottled water. Just to be safe I called Oliver's vet and left a message with the receptionist regarding the use of a water bottle and I'm awaiting her reply. Thank you for the tip.
 
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Hi Tiel, just wanted to follow up with the response I received from Oliver's vet (see below). I will be removing the water bottle and using a water bowl from now on. Thanks again for posting this.

CAEM Reception <caem@avianandexoticvets.com>
Tue 3/12/2019 12:14 PM

Hello Mr. Vega,
Just wanted to follow up on the earlier conversation we had about the drinking dish. So i got confirmation from the medical staff that it is far more recommended to use a water bowl for drinking VS a water bottle. Drinking from a bottle long term and even sometimes short term can cause bacteria to grow inside the bottle even when they are cleaned, it also disrupts the amount of water intake your bird may be wanting to actually get. They are not ideal for birds and bigger mammals than say a guinea pig or rat. Hope this helped!
 

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April, 2019. As seen on FB today from Birds and Beak bird rescue:

Heads up!!! This is not us and these are not our birds but are sharing because you guys need to know.






Dani HeltontoLost and Found Cockatiels and Other Bird Companions
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Do not buy Gotham pans!
7 of my birds died...
Bought from Costco
These pans are super sensitive! Nothing like wat the commercial advertisers.
I burnt bacon which cause a slight fire above the stove...
Whatever is in those pans and whatever gas is it released killed 7 of my birds and another one is in the hospital right now. Please keep your prayers open. Thanks
Sorry for the sad pictures but it's the only way to get this out there and pass this forward or share it with everybody.
I called customer service corporate office
1-800- 353-8237... I got hung up once and then I called back a second time... then I got hung up twice trying to explain my story the lady that answered had a slight accent from a different country said that it was the water she was very combative and when I listen to my story... And she hung up on me again... I called back again hoping I get a different person and a third time and I got the answering machine and whoever is voice is on that recording is the exact same lady I spoke to she was very combative and didn't even say sorry. I also called 1-888-326-0977 I spoke to Angie and a couple people there who insist I email and I'm not sure if I'm getting the same lady from the corporate office and I don't want to waste my time her email address which I haven't done (yet) Josie.Peralta@emsonusa.com.

My apologies for the sad sad pictures my cockatoo sulfur was 18 years old he was supposed to outlive me. I have my life insurance set up for him. He died on the 24th 4 hours after the pans... My six other birds mango Snickers Ricky Pico and Cali.
M&M is currently in the hospital getting oxygen

Please share please pass forward I don't want this to ever happen to any other bird person.

Thank you
Dani
 

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Does anyone know if the container that is used for microwavable meals, like Stoffers, use teflon? I ask because I currently am cooking a Stoffers meal in my microwave and never even considered what the paper tin is made out of! The website lists plastic trays, aluminum trays, and something called paperboard, which is what the meal I have currently is, but could there possibly be something in the inside of the paperboard to help with the cooking process?
 
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I'm so sorry that happened to your birds. Thank you so much for sharing this.
 
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