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Fertile parrot eggs
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Anyone offering to sell you fertile parrot eggs is a scam.
Do not by ANYTHING from someone claiming to sell fertile parrot eggs - not even adult birds. They are notorious for stealing other people's photos and writing, so the chances are that the parrot isn't even theirs to sell. They will take your money and run, and you will be left seriously out of pocket.
Do not by ANYTHING from someone claiming to sell fertile parrot eggs - not even adult birds. They are notorious for stealing other people's photos and writing, so the chances are that the parrot isn't even theirs to sell. They will take your money and run, and you will be left seriously out of pocket.
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Yup, reputable breeders will not sell eggs.
Parrots are not like chickens. Raising a newly hatched parrot chick is difficult and labor intensive. A good breeder will sell fully weaned chicks, so they have the best chance of survival.
Anyone who offers to sell the eggs is very sketchy. Do not trust them. You are very likely to be scammed.
Parrots are not like chickens. Raising a newly hatched parrot chick is difficult and labor intensive. A good breeder will sell fully weaned chicks, so they have the best chance of survival.
Anyone who offers to sell the eggs is very sketchy. Do not trust them. You are very likely to be scammed.
Hi well I did order 14 eggs from Hungary and they shipped right away supposed to be here within 3 days (or that’s what the tracking number showed) but only one day on the way and they had a hold up and needed money for insuring the shipment before could proceed I did buy that then they were back in shipping and then they were asking for money because some had hatched along the way they sent me videos of them hatching and also later of them being all together in a brooder. Well from there it’s just more money for certificates and then vet bills yet. It makes no sense to me that they would survive being shipped that close to hatching. Thank you for your help and info.
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I'm sorry, but this is a classic scam. They will keep asking for money for things, and you will never see those parrots. The videos of them hatching and in the brooder could be anyone's and could even be years old.
If you paid by credit card, you may have some protections. Call your bank asap and speak to the fraud department.
If you paid by credit card, you may have some protections. Call your bank asap and speak to the fraud department.
Yes that’s what I thought I tried to do as much research as possible and couldn’t find anything until I had sent them money then I found all kinds of sites referring to these as scams.
They want to be paid with Bitcoin, moneygram or wire transfer I understand I probably won’t get my money back which I can live with but I’m hoping this helps others before they loose a lot of money as well.
They want to be paid with Bitcoin, moneygram or wire transfer I understand I probably won’t get my money back which I can live with but I’m hoping this helps others before they loose a lot of money as well.
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I'm very sorry this happened to you. The seller is definitely a scammer. There is no way that the eggs would "accidentally" hatch prior to shipment or during shipping. That is a complete lie.
I raise chickens, quail, and ducks. Unlike parrots, these birds have precocious young that do not require hand-feeding, so they can be successfully raised in a brooder without special training. Baby chickens are MUCH easier to keep alive than a baby parrot.
I have purchased fertile eggs for poultry breeds that are difficult to find in my area. The eggs are gathered shortly after being laid by the hen and BEFORE incubation begins. This is very important, because once the eggs have begun incubation, their requirements change dramatically. Before incubation, the egg is in a kind of stasis, like a seed, waiting for water. They can still be harmed by exposure to extreme temperatures or too much vibration during transport, but so long as care is taken with the package, the freshly laid, fertilized eggs can be safely transported without special equipment. If you try to transport incubating eggs, then you much maintain a steady incubation temperature of 99.5 degrees Fahrenheit, as well as keeping the humidity correct AND turning the eggs regularly. They would not survive a three day trip in the mail. They would not even survive a one day trip. Fertilized chicken eggs MUST be unincubated to be successfully shipped. The person buying the eggs will put them into an incubator after the eggs arrive at their destination and start the incubation process. It can't be interrupted after incubation begins or the eggs will not hatch.
However, timing is very important. The longer you wait between the time the egg was laid and the time when incubation begins, the fewer eggs will successfully hatch. To have a good hatch rate, you should try to minimize this time as much as possible, by gathering freshly laid eggs, expedited shipping, and starting incubation as soon as the eggs are received. For chickens, you have about a week to start incubation from the time the egg was laid. Longer delays will significantly lower your hatch rate. Most chicken breeders will have multiple hens, so they can gather many eggs in one day and ship a dozen eggs out all at once. The extra eggs are important, because you can expect that out of a dozen eggs, you will have some that will not hatch, for one reason or another, so when you are hatching chickens from eggs, you generally plan on buying more eggs than you need, to make up for expected losses.
For chickens, the incubation process takes roughly 21 days to complete. So the seller would gather freshly laid eggs, ship them out the same or next day, the buyer would receive the eggs within a few days and get them into an incubator. In about three weeks, the eggs would hatch and they would have brand new chickens ... assuming that everything when right during shipping and they were incubated at the appropriate temperature and humidity.
Now think about this process in relationship to parrots. They will lay an egg every other day and start incubating their eggs immediately. Unless you had a large flock of parrots that were all laying at the same time (like you would have with chickens), it would be nearly impossible to gather a dozen freshly laid parrot eggs to ship out at the same time. At best, you might be able to get three or four eggs at once if you had several breeding pairs laying at the same time. You would need to pull the eggs soon after laying and get them shipped as quickly as possible. The buyer would need to start incubation as soon as the eggs arrived and some of them would not hatch, so they might end up with one or two surviving chicks. These chicks would then need to hand-feed from the moment they hatch and require 24 hour intensive care to keep them alive. Even experienced breeders lose chicks due to the challenges of hand-feeding. Someone who has never raised a parrot chick before is very likely to make mistakes and those mistakes could easily cost the life of one or all of their chicks. It is a recipe for disaster. Unless all you care about is getting a quick buck by selling parrot eggs to unsuspecting people. And in that case, you don't even need to own a parrot. You just need to convince them to send you some money.
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Long story short, there is no way that the eggs could hatch prematurely if the seller was making any real effort to get fertilized eggs to you in a reasonable way. As tka said, this is definitely a scam. The parrot eggs never existed in the first place and they have been lying to you from the start.
I raise chickens, quail, and ducks. Unlike parrots, these birds have precocious young that do not require hand-feeding, so they can be successfully raised in a brooder without special training. Baby chickens are MUCH easier to keep alive than a baby parrot.
I have purchased fertile eggs for poultry breeds that are difficult to find in my area. The eggs are gathered shortly after being laid by the hen and BEFORE incubation begins. This is very important, because once the eggs have begun incubation, their requirements change dramatically. Before incubation, the egg is in a kind of stasis, like a seed, waiting for water. They can still be harmed by exposure to extreme temperatures or too much vibration during transport, but so long as care is taken with the package, the freshly laid, fertilized eggs can be safely transported without special equipment. If you try to transport incubating eggs, then you much maintain a steady incubation temperature of 99.5 degrees Fahrenheit, as well as keeping the humidity correct AND turning the eggs regularly. They would not survive a three day trip in the mail. They would not even survive a one day trip. Fertilized chicken eggs MUST be unincubated to be successfully shipped. The person buying the eggs will put them into an incubator after the eggs arrive at their destination and start the incubation process. It can't be interrupted after incubation begins or the eggs will not hatch.
However, timing is very important. The longer you wait between the time the egg was laid and the time when incubation begins, the fewer eggs will successfully hatch. To have a good hatch rate, you should try to minimize this time as much as possible, by gathering freshly laid eggs, expedited shipping, and starting incubation as soon as the eggs are received. For chickens, you have about a week to start incubation from the time the egg was laid. Longer delays will significantly lower your hatch rate. Most chicken breeders will have multiple hens, so they can gather many eggs in one day and ship a dozen eggs out all at once. The extra eggs are important, because you can expect that out of a dozen eggs, you will have some that will not hatch, for one reason or another, so when you are hatching chickens from eggs, you generally plan on buying more eggs than you need, to make up for expected losses.
For chickens, the incubation process takes roughly 21 days to complete. So the seller would gather freshly laid eggs, ship them out the same or next day, the buyer would receive the eggs within a few days and get them into an incubator. In about three weeks, the eggs would hatch and they would have brand new chickens ... assuming that everything when right during shipping and they were incubated at the appropriate temperature and humidity.
Now think about this process in relationship to parrots. They will lay an egg every other day and start incubating their eggs immediately. Unless you had a large flock of parrots that were all laying at the same time (like you would have with chickens), it would be nearly impossible to gather a dozen freshly laid parrot eggs to ship out at the same time. At best, you might be able to get three or four eggs at once if you had several breeding pairs laying at the same time. You would need to pull the eggs soon after laying and get them shipped as quickly as possible. The buyer would need to start incubation as soon as the eggs arrived and some of them would not hatch, so they might end up with one or two surviving chicks. These chicks would then need to hand-feed from the moment they hatch and require 24 hour intensive care to keep them alive. Even experienced breeders lose chicks due to the challenges of hand-feeding. Someone who has never raised a parrot chick before is very likely to make mistakes and those mistakes could easily cost the life of one or all of their chicks. It is a recipe for disaster. Unless all you care about is getting a quick buck by selling parrot eggs to unsuspecting people. And in that case, you don't even need to own a parrot. You just need to convince them to send you some money.
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Long story short, there is no way that the eggs could hatch prematurely if the seller was making any real effort to get fertilized eggs to you in a reasonable way. As tka said, this is definitely a scam. The parrot eggs never existed in the first place and they have been lying to you from the start.
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I know this might be rude to ask, but how much did they charge for the eggs? (Forget the additional rip-off charges.) Also, what species, and why Hungary, of all places?
If you were doing this to raise as a pet, why 14? And do you know that hand-rearing doesn’t guarantee a lifelong bond with the bird? I bring this up because if you want a pet bird, we implore you to read and study up here before buying anything.
This is VERY complicated stuff, and you want to do the right things or you’ll wind up with a miserable bird, or possibly a dead one.
If you were doing this to raise as a pet, why 14? And do you know that hand-rearing doesn’t guarantee a lifelong bond with the bird? I bring this up because if you want a pet bird, we implore you to read and study up here before buying anything.
This is VERY complicated stuff, and you want to do the right things or you’ll wind up with a miserable bird, or possibly a dead one.
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Thank you for all the info I guess I didn’t put to much thought into what all it takes to hatch parrot eggs I understood that they would be shipped without being incubated at all then all of a sudden they hatch and I no with just regular chicks if it gets close to hatching time even a thunderstorm in the distance can kill the chicks.
I guess I was trusting to much again and hoping it was true as my wife grew up with having parrots and after moving to Canada couldn’t afford to buy one then we seen the cheap eggs online so I decided to buy them for her but everything has gone sideways just always asking for more money. They said they were in veterinary care in Iceland so I just called every vet clinic in the area and none of them had any baby parrots in there care. Confirmation on it’s a scam
Thank you for all the info I guess I didn’t put to much thought into what all it takes to hatch parrot eggs I understood that they would be shipped without being incubated at all then all of a sudden they hatch and I no with just regular chicks if it gets close to hatching time even a thunderstorm in the distance can kill the chicks.
I guess I was trusting to much again and hoping it was true as my wife grew up with having parrots and after moving to Canada couldn’t afford to buy one then we seen the cheap eggs online so I decided to buy them for her but everything has gone sideways just always asking for more money. They said they were in veterinary care in Iceland so I just called every vet clinic in the area and none of them had any baby parrots in there care. Confirmation on it’s a scam
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Shipping internationally is another red flag. Most countries have extremely strict regulations about animal imports. Many countries do not allow the import of young animals and have an age limit, and many countries need a) some proof of ownership and b) that the animal has been in your care for at least several months.
An even passing familiarity with Canada's import laws for domestic animals should have raised suspicions that this was a scam. Importing eggs without permits and without contacting the Canadian Food Inspection Agency is illegal and, if successful, could result in fines or prosecution.
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An even passing familiarity with Canada's import laws for domestic animals should have raised suspicions that this was a scam. Importing eggs without permits and without contacting the Canadian Food Inspection Agency is illegal and, if successful, could result in fines or prosecution.
Bringing animals to Canada: Importing and travelling with pets
If you are travelling with a pet or planning to import an animal to Canada, you will need the right paperwork at the border to meet Canada's import requirements.
Wire transfer is a classic scamming tool.
Wire Transfer Scams | Washington State
Any of the following “red flags” should signal a scam: You are asked to wire money.
www.atg.wa.gov
so on the question how much were the eggs they were US$ 32.50 for Amazon parrots.
As for why 14? they had a deal if bought 14 got a free incubator and 150 dollars off plus free shipping. And we had some friends that had always talked about also wanting a few so we thought maybe we could hatch them and sell maybe a few as well.
I know that hand-rearing is not guaranteed but my wife has raised numerous of parrots in Bolivia where she grew up so we thought we would try this. I know I made a stupid move but I did call the health and food inspection agency and they said it would be hard but with proper permits it was possible so I went ahead.
As for how they got to Iceland? They departed from Hungary then stopped in Scotland (5 day layover)where I had to buy insurance (which I was told was 100% refunded upon receiving shipment) then next stop was in Iceland where supposedly they hatched.
Any questions I am happy to answer and talk about. I know I screwed up big time but this post may help someone else from making same mistake
As for why 14? they had a deal if bought 14 got a free incubator and 150 dollars off plus free shipping. And we had some friends that had always talked about also wanting a few so we thought maybe we could hatch them and sell maybe a few as well.
I know that hand-rearing is not guaranteed but my wife has raised numerous of parrots in Bolivia where she grew up so we thought we would try this. I know I made a stupid move but I did call the health and food inspection agency and they said it would be hard but with proper permits it was possible so I went ahead.
As for how they got to Iceland? They departed from Hungary then stopped in Scotland (5 day layover)where I had to buy insurance (which I was told was 100% refunded upon receiving shipment) then next stop was in Iceland where supposedly they hatched.
Any questions I am happy to answer and talk about. I know I screwed up big time but this post may help someone else from making same mistake
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I'm curious about that "insurance" that they made you buy. I think it is safe to assume it is just as bogus as the parrot eggs and a way to get more money from you, but what did they say it was covering?
With insurance, you usually pay a small amount up front, to protect yourself against a possible future loss, should something go wrong. For example, you might insure a valuable package, so if it arrives damaged, you can get a free replacement. The insurer makes a little extra money if the package arrives safely and the insured person is protected if it does not.
Unless I am misunderstanding something, it doesn't make any sense to offer a refund on insurance. I am guessing that was just part of the scam, to encourage you to give them more money with an empty promise that it would be returned at some point.
Scammers make me so mad. They profit off the trust and good nature of other people. It is so horrible.
With insurance, you usually pay a small amount up front, to protect yourself against a possible future loss, should something go wrong. For example, you might insure a valuable package, so if it arrives damaged, you can get a free replacement. The insurer makes a little extra money if the package arrives safely and the insured person is protected if it does not.
Unless I am misunderstanding something, it doesn't make any sense to offer a refund on insurance. I am guessing that was just part of the scam, to encourage you to give them more money with an empty promise that it would be returned at some point.
Scammers make me so mad. They profit off the trust and good nature of other people. It is so horrible.
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Those are definitely not acceptable for imports. These are the preliminary forms you should have been given - this is just to apply for a permit to import. There would be more paperwork to fill in once the permit had been granted.
inspection.canada.ca
Crucially, the birds needed to have hatched, have been in your possession for some months (usually 90 days), and you must accompany them to Canada. Importing pets across international borders is complicated, both in terms of legality and in logistics, and there are specialist pet transport services to help people negotiate the complex requirements. It involves a LOT of paperwork and permits, even down to the dimensions of the shipping crate.
Five day layovers should never happen with animals: part of the logistics are about ensuring that the animals is in transit for as little time as possible. As the UK has now left the EU, there is no longer seamless travel between Hungary and Scotland. A five day layover should have meant even more paperwork and the UK is strict about biosecurity.
These eggs do not exist and never existed. They haven't been in Hungary or in Scotland or in Iceland - they don't exist. It's someone in their bedroom, not a parrot in sight, stealing other people's photos and videos to persuade people to part with their money.
Privacy Notice Statement applicable to form CFIA/ACIA 5860 - Application for Permit to Import Live Animals, Hatching Eggs and Animal Germplasm - Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Privacy Notice Statement applicable to form CFIA/ACIA 5860 - Application for Permit to Import Live Animals, Hatching Eggs and Animal Germplasm
Crucially, the birds needed to have hatched, have been in your possession for some months (usually 90 days), and you must accompany them to Canada. Importing pets across international borders is complicated, both in terms of legality and in logistics, and there are specialist pet transport services to help people negotiate the complex requirements. It involves a LOT of paperwork and permits, even down to the dimensions of the shipping crate.
Five day layovers should never happen with animals: part of the logistics are about ensuring that the animals is in transit for as little time as possible. As the UK has now left the EU, there is no longer seamless travel between Hungary and Scotland. A five day layover should have meant even more paperwork and the UK is strict about biosecurity.
These eggs do not exist and never existed. They haven't been in Hungary or in Scotland or in Iceland - they don't exist. It's someone in their bedroom, not a parrot in sight, stealing other people's photos and videos to persuade people to part with their money.
Well thank you all for helping me get information and saving me from getting caught paying even more. I lost a lot of money but I’m glad to find all this information before loosing even more. They are still emailing constantly trying to get me to pay they were really mad when they found out that I had called the vet clinics in Iceland.
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