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Comparing Pellets (Guaranteed Analysis, Ingredients, & Understanding Nutrition)

Which pellet brand should I choose?

  • HARI Tropican Bird Food, Hagen Parrot Food

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  • Roudybush Maintenance Crumbles

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • Mazuri Small Bird Diet

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  • Mix them!

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Hey everyone. I'm hoping someone here could help provide some insight because I've been somewhat obsessively comparing the guaranteed analysis and ingredients of a few different pellet brands for my Cockatiel and frankly I'm not sure what is "best."

Here are the three I am caught between...

HARI Tropican Bird Food, Hagen Parrot Food with Peanuts & Sunflower Seeds, Maintenance Parrot Granules 2 mm, Lifetime Formula
Extruded corn, ground wheat, soybean meal, soybean oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), peanut kernels, sunflower kernels, brewers rice, dried corn fermentation soluble product, calcium carbonate, carotene, oat groats, flaxseed meal, spirulina, calcium propionate (preservative), L-lysine, salt, choline chloride, DL-methionine, orange oil, banana oil, beta carotene, rosemary extract, zinc oxide, sodium selenite, vitamin E supplement, vitamin B12 supplement, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, folic acid, niacin, calcium pantothenate, vitamin A supplement, riboflavin, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, biotin, ascorbic acid, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), calcium iodate, vitamin D3 supplement
Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein 14.0% (min), Crude fat 9.0% (min), Crude fiber 4.0% (max), Ash 4.5% (max), Moisture 9.0% (max)

Roudybush Maintenance Crumbles

Ground Corn, Ground Wheat, Soy Meal, Soy Oil, Alfalfa, Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Salt, L-Lysine, DL-Methionine, L-Arginine, Niacin, Silicon Dioxide (anti-caking aid), Citric Acid (Preservative), Mixed Tocopherols (Preservative), Vegetable O. Manganese Sulfate, Yucca shidigera Extract, Hydrated Sodium Calcium Aluminosilicate, Dried Yeast, Biotin, Calcium Pantothenate, Zinc Oxide, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin A Acetate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (Vitamin K), Ethylenediamine Dihydroiodide, Vitamin D3 Supplement
Guaranteed Analysis: Crude Protein 11.0% (min), Crude Fat 6.0% (min), Crude Fiber 3.5% (max), Moisture 12.0% (max)

Mazuri Small Bird Diet

Ground corn, wheat middlings, dehulled soybean meal, corn gluten meal, flaxseed, glycerol monostearate, dicalcium phosphate, soybean oil, calcium carbonate, wheat germ, brewers dried yeast, calcium propionate (a preservative), l-lysine, salt, dl-methionine, Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product dehydrated, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (stabilized vitamin C), choline chloride, Lactobacillus casei fermentation product dehydrated, Bifidobacterium thermophilum fermentation product dehydrated, pyridoxine hydrochloride, biotin, Enterococcus faecium fermentation product dehydrated, beta carotene, dl-alpha tocopheryl acetate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K) Preserved with mixed tocopherols (form of vitamin E), cholecalciferol, rosemary extract, folic acid, Vitamin A acetate, citric acid, manganous oxide, riboflavin, marigold extract, zinc oxide, calcium iodate, calcium panthothenate, thiamine mononitrate, nicotinic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, L-Tryptophan, copper sulfate, zinc sulfate, cobalt carbonate, sodium selenite
Guaranteed Analysis: Crude Protein 14.5% (min), Crude Fat 5.0% (min), Crude Fiber 5.0% (max), Ash 8.0% (max), Moisture 12.0% (max), Vitamin E 150 IU/kg (min), Omega 3 Fatty Acid 0.40% (min)

So, I'm really conflicted - Mainly because I don't know which of the three best suits a cockatiel's nutritional needs. They're all pellets that are designed to be suitable for multiple species and they all have slight differences in ingredients and analysis. At a glance with no knowledge, it seems like Mazuri might be the healthiest option, as it is high in protein, highest in fiber, and has the least amount of crude fat. Mazuri is also the only brand that has a guaranteed analysis of vitamin E and Omega 3 fatty acid. In terms of brand loyalty, I've used Roudybush pretty much religiously, but on closer inspection I've noticed a few things that I find a little concerning. For example, why does Roudybush have straight-up salt in it's ingredient list? It also has the least amount of variety in terms of staple ingredients, only consisting primarily of corn, wheat, soy, and alfalfa. HARI, on the other hand, has a diverse variety of staples in addition to the mainstays such as peanuts, sunflower, brewer's rice, oat groats, flaxseed meal, and spirulina. Finally - What is "Ash" and why does Mazuri have a whopping 8% max in it's analysis whilst Roudybush has none?

If anyone can give me some insight into some of the basics of nutrition and/or some good sources to help me decide.. I'd really appreciate it. Right now I have Roudybush Nibbles, Mazuri Small Bird and Mazuri Mini Bird diet that I offer as a mix but I am getting low on everything. That means I'm going to have to put an order in soon. Perhaps I should pick up a small bag of a couple different options and continue to mix in order to balance the shortcomings of each brand?

For anyone that's curious.. In addition to pellets I also offer a sprinkling of dried bird-friendly herbs, cooked pasta, quinoa, and rice, plus the standard fruit/veg chop, and my own custom seed and grain blend that I make using human-grade products, usually organic. I aim for a ratio of 50%-75% pellet to 10-15% seed and 20-25% chop with maybe 5% pasta/cooked grains and 0.5% herbs.

And before you say it - Yes, I know, I'm overthinking it. It's what I do. :lol:

EDIT: I'm continuing to research after posting this and I figured I'd share what I learned about the "Ash" metric in the guaranteed analysis. Here's what I've learned:
When ash is used related to animal foods, it means minerals – calcium, phosphorus, iron, copper, zinc, etc. Ash is a crude measurement of the total amounts of minerals in a diet. It’s called ash because of how it is determined. Samples of feed are put into a furnace and then burned until they reach a constant weight. This means that the only thing left is elements that won’t burn, namely minerals. All organic materials such as fat, protein, fiber, and vitamins have been completely burned away. So, ash isn’t added to food, it’s what is left when everything else burns away during analysis; it is just one way to measure minerals in a diet.
Read more here: "All About Ash"
 
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The best is the one that fits your budget, is easiest for you to acquire, and your bird eats and does well on :)

I also consider the company histories; in this case they are all pretty awesome. Roudybush was created by a vet, and has one of the oldest feeding trials... Still going on today since the 1980s... On Amazon parrots.

Hari has a long history too and is also created by vets.

Mazuri is one of the biggest names on the planet, with a focus on zoo animal nutrition.

High protein isn't necessarily the most important thing; it can cause some birds to become more hormonal. Proteins are great for creating eggs, after all ;) Some older birds may do better with higher protein and fat. So the reason they aren't all "the same" is because our birds are not "the same", even members of the same species.



My Jardine's won't eat any of these :lol: So I'm no help on that front.

I do offer a mix for him, as he stops eating them when he gets bored. Currently he's eating Psittacus; Harrison's is the other one I'm rotating with.
 

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The best is the one that fits your budget, is easiest for you to acquire, and your bird eats and does well on :)

I also consider the company histories; in this case they are all pretty awesome. Roudybush was created by a vet, and has one of the oldest feeding trials... Still going on today since the 1980s... On Amazon parrots.

Hari has a long history too and is also created by vets.

Mazuri is one of the biggest names on the planet, with a focus on zoo animal nutrition.

High protein isn't necessarily the most important thing; it can cause some birds to become more hormonal. Proteins are great for creating eggs, after all ;) Some older birds may do better with higher protein and fat. So the reason they aren't all "the same" is because our birds are not "the same", even members of the same species.



My Jardine's won't eat any of these :lol: So I'm no help on that front.

I do offer a mix for him, as he stops eating them when he gets bored. Currently he's eating Psittacus; Harrison's is the other one I'm rotating with.
At the moment everything I'm looking at is readily available.. And overall, I'm not having much of an issue with feeding pellets. My 'tiel seems to sample a little bit of everything. I've had the most success offering the various food groups separately in their own bowls. When I mixed it all together, little bird would just pick out the tastiest seeds and touch nothing else. However, there seems to be no problem chowing down on pellets so long as they're in their own separate bowl! I guess it's behavioral/instinctual. This is stark contrast to my budgie, who was happy to have everything mixed together and seemed to eat a balanced mix at chow time.

I've heard of Harrison's - The only thing that I'm a little bit turned off by is the shelf life. In your experience, how long does this brand last? Do you keep it in the fridge or freezer after opening?

Let's look at the ingredients and analysis!

Harrison's High Potency Fine
*Ground Hulled White Millet (Proso), *Ground Shelled Sunflower Seeds, *Ground Hulless Barley, *Ground Yellow Corn, *Ground Soybeans, *Ground Shelled Peanuts, *Ground Rice, *Ground Green Peas, *Ground Lentils, *Ground Toasted Oat Groats, Chia Seed, *Ground Alfalfa, Calcium Carbonate, Montmorillonite Clay, Spirulina, Ground Dried Sea Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Sea Salt, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, d-Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.
*CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT
Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein (min.) 20%, crude fat (min.) 12%, crude fiber (max.) 5%, moisture (max.) 10%

Harrison's Lifetime Fine

*Ground Yellow Corn, *Ground Hulless Barley, *Ground Hulled Millet, *Ground Soybeans, *Ground Shelled Peanuts, *Ground Shelled Sunflower Seeds, *Ground Lentils, *Ground Rice, *Ground Green Peas, *Ground Alfalfa, *Ground Toasted Oat Groats, Chia Seed, Calcium Carbonate, Montmorillonite Clay, Ground Dried Sea Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Sea Salt, Spirulina, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, d-Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.
*CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT
Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein (min.) 14%, crude fat (min.) 6%, crude fiber (max.) 4.5%, moisture (max.) 10%

It's a little bit on the pricey side but I can't argue with the quality of ingredients.. Maybe I could mix the high potency with one of the other three I'm considering.. What do you think?
 

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The only thing that I'm a little bit turned off by is the shelf life. In your experience, how long does this brand last? Do you keep it in the fridge or freezer after opening?
Remember you can portion it up in zip loc baggies and freeze.

I feed Hagen Tropican because it was the easiest for me to get for the longest time and it was the best choice of what was avail in my local shop. But now I feed Psittacus and currently I have Zupreem natural. My lovebirds eat all three brands with no issues. I just buy whatever I can get, the Zupreem is often on sale here, Tropican I have to order from Amazon which is a pain, I prefer to spend more and get the Psittacus.

As for me, I like Zupreem the least as I prefer the smell of the Tropican in the room.

Like Shawna said above, best choice is the one your bird will eat and you can get a hold of relatively easy :)
 

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We have a rotation here - Zupreem, Roudybush, Higgins... And something else I can't recall.

All of mine refused Harrisons, which is way too expensive to be wasting. Squirrels loved it, at least:shifty:

We mix them up though, because none of mine will eat only one flavor of anything. Right now we've got a couple different flavors of Zupreem mixed with Roudybush and my 'too and tiel both eat that reasonably well (different sizes, obvs).

The biggest thing, is don't buy in bulk until you're sure they're going to eat that brand/flavor.
 

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At the moment everything I'm looking at is readily available.. And overall, I'm not having much of an issue with feeding pellets. My 'tiel seems to sample a little bit of everything. I've had the most success offering the various food groups separately in their own bowls. When I mixed it all together, little bird would just pick out the tastiest seeds and touch nothing else. However, there seems to be no problem chowing down on pellets so long as they're in their own separate bowl! I guess it's behavioral/instinctual. This is stark contrast to my budgie, who was happy to have everything mixed together and seemed to eat a balanced mix at chow time.

I've heard of Harrison's - The only thing that I'm a little bit turned off by is the shelf life. In your experience, how long does this brand last? Do you keep it in the fridge or freezer after opening?

Let's look at the ingredients and analysis!

Harrison's High Potency Fine
*Ground Hulled White Millet (Proso), *Ground Shelled Sunflower Seeds, *Ground Hulless Barley, *Ground Yellow Corn, *Ground Soybeans, *Ground Shelled Peanuts, *Ground Rice, *Ground Green Peas, *Ground Lentils, *Ground Toasted Oat Groats, Chia Seed, *Ground Alfalfa, Calcium Carbonate, Montmorillonite Clay, Spirulina, Ground Dried Sea Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Sea Salt, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, d-Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.
*CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT
Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein (min.) 20%, crude fat (min.) 12%, crude fiber (max.) 5%, moisture (max.) 10%

Harrison's Lifetime Fine

*Ground Yellow Corn, *Ground Hulless Barley, *Ground Hulled Millet, *Ground Soybeans, *Ground Shelled Peanuts, *Ground Shelled Sunflower Seeds, *Ground Lentils, *Ground Rice, *Ground Green Peas, *Ground Alfalfa, *Ground Toasted Oat Groats, Chia Seed, Calcium Carbonate, Montmorillonite Clay, Ground Dried Sea Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Sea Salt, Spirulina, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, d-Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.
*CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT
Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein (min.) 14%, crude fat (min.) 6%, crude fiber (max.) 4.5%, moisture (max.) 10%

It's a little bit on the pricey side but I can't argue with the quality of ingredients.. Maybe I could mix the high potency with one of the other three I'm considering.. What do you think?
The shelf life once opened is lower because there are no preservatives; once exposed to air, sensitive vitamins and minerals will start to break down. I usually stick to the 1 lb bags because I know l'll use them within 2 months. When I do use the 5lb bags, I put some in an old 1 lb bag and put the rest in the freezer. This is per the company suggestion.

I think offering a mix is fine, but there is also something to be said for not fixing what isn't broken ;) I used to do the same thing as you with mixing up pellets all the time, but eventually had to commit to just 1-2 pellets due to costs and frankly to simplify my life a little.

I even made this so I could more easily reference things :lol:

 
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My two love Roudybush but will eat prettybird,Harrisons and Zupreem I think it's good to get your bird eating more than one pellet in case something becomes unavailable.
 

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These pellet brands should offer smaller "tester" bags! I'm a little concerned that if I spend the nearly $20 on the 1lb bag of harrison's, my 'tiel won't eat it! I'd love to try a little bit of everything. Variety is the spice of life, after all!

If someone were to buy a few of these brands bulk and get permission to sell small tester pouches I bet they'd make a killing on selling "samplers!"

Although I will say - He (FYI - we're thinking he's a boy now,) does seem to try everything and eats all of the different pellet offerings I've tried so far. The breeder sent me home with a portion of two different sizes of Mazuri, Tops Small Hookbill, and I had plenty of Roudybush Nibbles left over from my budgie who passed. I think I have a bit of advantage because he has been eating pellets since solid foods were first offered. That said, he would eat seeds all day and nothing else if I let him.
 

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These pellet brands should offer smaller "tester" bags! I'm a little concerned that if I spend the nearly $20 on the 1lb bag of harrison's, my 'tiel won't eat it! I'd love to try a little bit of everything. Variety is the spice of life, after all!

If someone were to buy a few of these brands bulk and get permission to sell small tester pouches I bet they'd make a killing on selling "samplers!"

Although I will say - He (FYI - we're thinking he's a boy now,) does seem to try everything and eats all of the different pellet offerings I've tried so far. The breeder sent me home with a portion of two different sizes of Mazuri, Tops Small Hookbill, and I had plenty of Roudybush Nibbles left over from my budgie who passed. I think I have a bit of advantage because he has been eating pellets since solid foods were first offered. That said, he would eat seeds all day and nothing else if I let him.
If you reach out, many companies do offer samples :) Zupreem doesn't, but they have a money back guarantee.

Harrison's does have a sample kit:
 
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