Taming?

[JLcribber]

Im not expecting anything immediate and I know it wont take a year either it could be less maybe more and im asking questions because Mango is different somehow I cant read him.

So why are you ignoring this advice?

I'm going to give you some very simple sound advice Brandon. Put all these expectations and "I must do clicker training" in box somewhere. Get to know and understand your bird (and him you) just by keenly observing him. Learn what his movements and gestures are. Then in 6 months from now when you have a "real relationship" with him you can do your "training". You don't have the skills and knowledge to do it right now.

 

[BeakFace]

Wow he steps up? I thought he was scared of hands?

 

[Brandon's-Fids]

So why are you ignoring this advice?

Im not ignoring any advice

 

[Brandon's-Fids]

Wow he steps up? I thought he was scared of hands?

I have said lots of times he steps on my arm and learned to step up on my hand you obviously have not seen my previous thread and its linked in this thread.

 

[Diesel13]

He is just scared of hands does not take treats obviously because he is scared of hands and he sometimes runs at my presence

Ok I take that back he is very scared when he steps up he even flys when my next arm comes for him to step up so I cant even do ladder with him.He is scared of every little movement and he is with me 4 months.

This implies to me that Mango is a very scared bird who does not step up and flees at the sight of hands . But now your previous post says he steps up? I'm sorry, but you keep giving such conflicting and confusing information that it makes it very difficult to help you. I and other members have given the best advice on how you can build a relationship with Mango. I advise that you follow through with the advise given and in time you will see progress.

 

[Brandon's-Fids]

Exactly in your quotes it saids he steps up too so wheres the confusion? I said he steps up so whats the problem? You knew he steps up but he is scared of hands that dosent mean he is afraid of my arm and you know we progressed to him stepping on the back of my hand.

 

[Doublete]

Im not ignoring any advice

Yes. You are.

RE READ THE POST THAT HE QUOTED ABOVE WHEN HE SAID YOU WERE IGNORING. It was HIS advice.

 

[Brandon's-Fids]

Yes. You are.

RE READ THE POST THAT HE QUOTED ABOVE WHEN HE SAID YOU WERE IGNORING. It was HIS advice.

I didnt ignore it though I saw it so how am I ignoring his advice????

 

[Applebutter]

You need a lot patience for these type of birds, they seem so different from any other birds. Have you done much research on Asiatics? Maybe they're not the kind of birds for you?

 

[Brandon's-Fids]

I done lots of research and I have a lot of patience.I actually this asiatics might be my favourite group of Parrots.

 

[Just-passn-thru]

So why are you ignoring this advice?

Energy Vampire that's why! :ballerina:

 

[Just-passn-thru]

Yes. You are.

RE READ THE POST THAT HE QUOTED ABOVE WHEN HE SAID YOU WERE IGNORING. It was HIS advice.

Energy Vampire That's Why! :ballerina:

Wow he steps up? I thought he was scared of hands?

Wow he steps up? I thought he was scared of hands?

Antagonistic Energy Vampire That's Why... Poor little Mango send positive energy to Mango

 

[noice]

Mango is beautiful. What kind of parrot is he? Good luck with taming.

 

[Brandon's-Fids]

What are u talking about

 

[Brandon's-Fids]

Mango is beautiful. What kind of parrot is he? Good luck with taming.

He is a Plum headed parakeet

 

[rocky'smom]

Positive Punishment (+P) Positive punishment means that something aversive happens to the animal after a behavior. It may cause the animal to not do that behavior again. For instance, a bird screams and is then squirted with water, if the frequency of screaming goes down the bird has been positively punished for screaming. There are some issues with positive punishment. The first is that you can get fallout in which the animal begins to associate the punishment with the person doling it out which can cause some other issues. Also, if the behavior does not go down in frequency but only stops during the actual punishment, the behavior is just being surpressed not extinguished.

ok Brandon , I'm going to tell you a true story about my beloved Rocky. the first home he was in, he was punished for being noisy by squirting him with water bottle. this happened daily and by the time I got him, he was a nervous wreck of a cockatiel. he didn't trust any human. he would hear the water running in the sink and hide in the bottom of his cage. he would not come and even sit with me. it took months to get him to not be afraid. he was nippy and aggressive. once he realized that he was home and the human now taking care of him was not going to squirt him with a water bottle every time he made a noise. he relaxed into loving happy bird. if you punish a bird in the way you described above, I better not find it written here. that is call torment, torture and it's unforgivable.

 

[Brandon's-Fids]

Why would I ever do something like that see what I mean why are you telling me this your assuming im the type of person who would do that you think I wrote whats above when really its from this forum so go tell who ever wrote it their wrong then so I dont know why its a sticky.

 

[Doublete]

Why would I ever do something like that see what I mean why are you telling me this your assuming im the type of person who would do that you think I wrote whats above when really its from this forum so go tell who ever wrote it their wrong then so I dont know why its a sticky.

Good grief. This is why nobody is trying to help you anymore.

I don't believe @rocky'smom was saying you would do that. She was explaining why that particular positive punishment line of thought is not actually the way to train. By sharing how her bird reacted.
You get defensive and are not truly open to constructive criticism or comments no matter what is said.

 

[Just-passn-thru]

Good grief. This is why nobody is trying to help you anymore.

I don't believe @rocky'smom was saying you would do that. She was explaining why that particular positive punishment line of thought is not actually the way to train. By sharing how her bird reacted.
You get defensive and are not truly open to constructive criticism or comments no matter what is said.

Instagator

 

[Doublete]

I guess I shouldn't respond either to anything.

Ok the .