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Urgent Surgery :( -GOOD UPDATE

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I got off the phone with the vet a bit ago, and they vet said that they felt shell on Thursday.
They are worried the stress might have caused her to stop production. If she doesn't lay by 4pm, she is getting the egg surgically removed. I'm so scared for her, because I know surgery is hard for the little ones.
Can anyone please tell me if this plan sounds good, what are your experiences with egg removal surgery.
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You must be so worried :hug8: .
Emily had one stuck...xrays showed a hard calcified shell. My vet pressed it out under anesthesia with her fingers.
 

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You must be so worried :hug8: .
Emily had one stuck...xrays showed a hard calcified shell. My vet pressed it out under anesthesia with her fingers.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Can you tell me more about this calcified shell? Thanks so much. :)
 

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:hug8: :hug8: Hugs to you and E. Hoping all goes well :)
 

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That must be so scary for both of you! I think you are doing everything possible to help her! :hug8: :hug8:
 

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Thank you for sharing your experience. Can you tell me more about this calcified shell? Thanks so much. :)
Well, it was a hard shelled egg and had been in her for 15 days and just getting bigger and bigger. It was low in her abdomen. The vet was very skilful and she moved it along the channel gradually and came out with gentle massage. She had to stretch the opening with an instrument I think. Emily had some tearing and bled a little for a day.
 

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I think sometimes they can suck out the insides of the egg and then pull it out. That might be what they do for soft eggs though.

I did see my vet massage one out of a chicken one day.
 

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Thank you all for the reassurance.
I know several members have recently lost a bird while under anestesia. Is that only for high risk cases, or is it a valid fear. Is there a bigger chance she'd die from surgery than come out alive? :(
 

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Thank you all for the reassurance.
I know several members have recently lost a bird while under anestesia. Is that only for high risk cases, or is it a valid fear. Is there a bigger chance she'd die from surgery than come out alive? :(


I think there are different levels of anesthesia. You need to discuss the risks and concerns with your vet. Having the egg stuck in here is dangerous also. Ask your vet outright what s/he would do if she were his/her bird.
 

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I think there are different levels of anesthesia. You need to discuss the risks and concerns with your vet. Having the egg stuck in here is dangerous also. Ask your vet outright what s/he would do if she were his/her bird.
Will do. :) Thanks!
 

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What does your vet have to say about the risks? According to the AMPA, birds undergoing anesthesia can be categorized as follows:

TABLE 39.2 Risk Classification of Potential Anesthesia Patients

Class I (minimal risk) Young, healthy patient undergoing an elective procedure.

Class II (some risk) Young, healthy patient undergoing a non-elective procedure, or a healthy patient undergoing an elective procedure.

Class III (risky) Patient with an ongoing health problem undergoing a procedure for this or another problem.

Class IV (very risky) Patient with a major health problem (unstable in nature) undergoing a procedure.

Class V (moribund) Last ditch effort to save bird’s life.


I lost two birds under anesthesia this year, but I would say one was between Class IV and V, and the other was definitely Class V. As scared as I am of surgery/anesthesia due to this (even though I know how unlikely survival was in both cases.. it still affects one emotionally), I wouldn't hesitate to have surgery done on a young healthy bird who needed an egg removed. :hug8:
 

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What does your vet have to say about the risks? According to the AMPA, birds undergoing anesthesia can be categorized as follows:

TABLE 39.2 Risk Classification of Potential Anesthesia Patients

Class I (minimal risk) Young, healthy patient undergoing an elective procedure.

Class II (some risk) Young, healthy patient undergoing a non-elective procedure, or a healthy patient undergoing an elective procedure.

Class III (risky) Patient with an ongoing health problem undergoing a procedure for this or another problem.

Class IV (very risky) Patient with a major health problem (unstable in nature) undergoing a procedure.

Class V (moribund) Last ditch effort to save bird’s life.


I lost two birds under anesthesia this year, but I would say one was between Class IV and V, and the other was definitely Class V. As scared as I am of surgery/anesthesia due to this (even though I know how unlikely survival was in both cases.. it still affects one emotionally), I wouldn't hesitate to have surgery done on a young healthy bird who needed an egg removed. :hug8:
I am so, so sorry!! :hug8:Thank you for sharing that info and the experiences you've had. :)
I think she's probably between Class II and III.
 

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Oh Pigster sending prayers, thoughts, vibes and :hug8: :hug8:To you and E!
 
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