Which is better?

[Sunni Tiel]

I didn't know if I should put this thread in feathered food court or here, If it needs to be moved please do!

So I was wondering if stainless steel bowls are better than plastic for water... I know SS is recommended, but what about rust? I would need to replace it every time it rusted, so like every few months. That really adds up and will get expensive. If I kept the plastic then it would be emptied and refilled when I see any poop/food in it, and washed with soap and brush every day. What about ceramic? I can't seem to find any ceramic bird food bowls anywhere... Any suggestions? Anyone have any SS bowls that haven't rusted?

Thanks!

 

[saroj12]

My wingabago carrier bowls don’t rust. I’m forgetting the brand atm. Also as bowls I bought with as ring don’t rust. Give me a few hours and I’ll look it up

 

[Shezbug]

SS should not rust.

None of my ss bowls have rusted- I still have a few of them from when I first got my kids ferrets over 15 years ago. Well used not a spot of rust. The whole point to using SS is that it is easily cleaned and sterilised and it should last just about forever!

I’m not sure why you believe they’ll rust in a few months time.

 

[saroj12]

Stainless Steel Ring Holders (for SS Cups)!

You all know that I'm nutty about these things :o so I was very pleased to see that the Birdsafe Store is now carrying new SS bowls with 100% SS ring holders and hardware!! (Almost all other SS cups come with chrome, nickel, or other types of holders.) And these are actually in small sizes to...

forums.avianavenue.com

Kings cages rusts a&e rusts

the bowls in my link have not rusted

 

[Sunni Tiel]

Weird, every SS bowl I've found has reviews that say they rusted within months.

 

[Shezbug]

Weird, every SS bowl I've found has reviews that say they rusted within months.

I can only assume we get higher quality SS pet bowls here then. I’ve had two bowls I bought that seemed a bit iffy- Burt snapped them both not long after getting them but every other SS bowl I have is fine and heaps of them have also been used in the oven.

 

[Sunni Tiel]

I can only assume we get higher quality SS pet bowls here then. I’ve had two bowls I bought that seemed a bit iffy- Burt snapped them both not long after getting them but every other SS bowl I have is fine and heaps of them have also been used in the oven.

Do you have any links? Thanks!

 

[Shezbug]

Do you have any links? Thanks!

I actually don’t have any places in mind- I haven’t bought bowls for a long time but most bird supply stores here do stock them.

I haven’t used this store yet (I don’t think I have anyway) but just searched them for coop cups for a link... Bird Supplies Shop Australia — Queenslander Aviaries

 

[DesertBird]

I bought these bowls for my budgies. I've only had them for about 2 months, but I'm happy with them.

https://www.amazon.com/QBLEEV-Birdc...08GFLKXXG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

 

[saroj12]

I just ordered six and only got 4 and now it says out of stock

stainless steel coop cup

www.birdsafestore.com

I won’t recommend them though in case they rust on you. I threw out all the kings cages junk bowls and my 5 year old a&e bowls rusted. Replacing the a&e with these.

 

[Shezbug]

I really hope they don’t rust on you. I don’t think I’ve heard anyone here complain about coop cups rusting.

 

[Sunni Tiel]

That's so weird. Thanks everyone! looks like I just need to start looking places other than amazon.

 

[Menagerie Mama]

Chiming in to say I’ve had a couple of my SS ring cups for around 10-12 years (for the zebra finches before BellaBelle GCC came home -have had BellaBell’s SS cups for more than 6 years) and have never had rust, either

 

[Tazlima]

My tiel, Charlie, came to me with plastic bowls that had been allowed to get absolutely filthy (see picture). The nastiness was embedded/etched into the plastic and was so bad that there was no possible way to get them clean. I had to throw them away and buy new ones.


(This is the photo I was sent before adopting him. Poor guy lived like this for seven years).

I have a variety of stainless bowls for my birds and have never had rust or an uncleanable mess.

To be fair, I've also had plastic bowls and they never reached anything like this state, but I HAVE had them crack/break.

If you have a choice, definitely go with stainless.

 

[DesertBird]

My tiel, Charlie, came to me with plastic bowls that had been allowed to get absolutely filthy (see picture). The nastiness was embedded/etched into the plastic and was so bad that there was no possible way to get them clean. I had to throw them away and buy new ones.

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(This is the photo I was sent before adopting him. Poor guy lived like this for seven years).

I have a variety of stainless bowls for my birds and have never had rust or an uncleanable mess.

To be fair, I've also had plastic bowls and they never reached anything like this state, but I HAVE had them crack/break.

If you have a choice, definitely go with stainless.

Poor guy! I couldn't imagine living in something so small for so long. It's great that you rescued him!

 

[aweb]

I didn't know if I should put this thread in feathered food court or here, If it needs to be moved please do!

So I was wondering if stainless steel bowls are better than plastic for water... I know SS is recommended, but what about rust? I would need to replace it every time it rusted, so like every few months. That really adds up and will get expensive. If I kept the plastic then it would be emptied and refilled when I see any poop/food in it, and washed with soap and brush every day. What about ceramic? I can't seem to find any ceramic bird food bowls anywhere... Any suggestions? Anyone have any SS bowls that haven't rusted?

Thanks!

Stainless steel used for food prep shouldn't rust. I've never seen pet dishes made from SS rust, ever, but I'm not saying it can't happen. But I'll tell you why I won't use plastic dishes with animals... the plastic will scratch long before you see it. There will be micro scratches that harbor bacteria, that won't wash clean completely. Unless you plan on not only washing, but thoroughly disinfecting your water dishes after every change, I would recommend SS or crockery. I use a lot of glass and actual heavy crocks with my animals. From guinea pigs to hamsters, to the cattery (I bred for a few years), to both birds... of course both of mine are too small to toss the glass bowls around, but the Quaker will pick up a SS bowl and toss the contents. As second choice I would only use the metal bowls that come for the specific cage I have. Replacing them every 2ish years would be worth it in my opinion.
As far as ceramic specifically for pets, yes here in the US you can find them at any pet store. I'll tell you that you can save yourself a pretty penny when you go to second hand and thrift stores, or look what Aunt Betty has to spare. The animals don't care if there's 70's style blossoms or carrots painted on them.

 

[aweb]

Don't buy these. You could get 18 of them for that price in the thrift store. But look for bowls like these. I've walked into the thrift store with a measuring tape and my dish ring measurement before, but now I just place them on the bottom of the cage. Works out fine and keeps the mess better, thanks to lower flying debris.

https://www.amazon.com/Bone-Dry-Lattice-Non-Skid-Silicone/dp/B01MRXMXGI/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=ceramic+pet+dish&qid=1614645575&sr=8-2

 

[Sunni Tiel]

Stainless steel used for food prep shouldn't rust. I've never seen pet dishes made from SS rust, ever, but I'm not saying it can't happen. But I'll tell you why I won't use plastic dishes with animals... the plastic will scratch long before you see it. There will be micro scratches that harbor bacteria, that won't wash clean completely. Unless you plan on not only washing, but thoroughly disinfecting your water dishes after every change, I would recommend SS or crockery. I use a lot of glass and actual heavy crocks with my animals. From guinea pigs to hamsters, to the cattery (I bred for a few years), to both birds... of course both of mine are too small to toss the glass bowls around, but the Quaker will pick up a SS bowl and toss the contents. As second choice I would only use the metal bowls that come for the specific cage I have. Replacing them every 2ish years would be worth it in my opinion.

Oh yeah totally I know plastic bowls harbor bacteria easy. I guess they haven't been in stock, when I posted there was only 1 option on amazon. I looked again today and see plenty of options, reading the reviews from that one and a few others that were left in stock had me thinking they all rusted, I guess the ones left were the ones everybody avoided because of bad quality. Thanks everyone!

 

[Tazlima]

Poor guy! I couldn't imagine living in something so small for so long. It's great that you rescued him!

Honestly, I still feel guilty about the circumstances around his adoption. We had just gotten a 2nd bird, and Boyfriend mentioned this fact at work.

His coworker was like "wait... you like birds? Want mine? You can have it for free. I got it for my kid and she's lost interest."

So boyfriend comes home and relays the message. At this point, it was unclear on whether we were even talking about a cockatiel or a cockatoo. Coworker didn't know which he had.

I said. "Well, we just got this 2nd bird, and I don't know if we can really handle a third. Let's see how things go before we promise anything."

So a month goes by, and 2nd bird is settling in nicely. Coworker re-ups the offer... still isn't sure if tiel or too (and my house is way too small for a too). So I say, "have him send you a picture."

And that's what he sent.

I took one glance and was like "ok, we're taking this bird today. I don't care if we have to turn right around and rehome him. We're getting him out of there immediately. "

But damn... a whole month. Here I was playing with my first bird and enjoying getting to know the second. Going to work. Walking the dogs. Sleeping in my comfy bed. Every moment of that time, while I was enjoying my happy little family, Charlie was sitting in that cramped, filthy cage with no foreseeable escape.

I could have gotten him out a month sooner.

 

[DesertBird]

Honestly, I still feel guilty about the circumstances around his adoption. We had just gotten a 2nd bird, and Boyfriend mentioned this fact at work.

His coworker was like "wait... you like birds? Want mine? You can have it for free. I got it for my kid and she's lost interest."

So boyfriend comes home and relays the message. At this point, it was unclear on whether we were even talking about a cockatiel or a cockatoo. Coworker didn't know which he had.

I said. "Well, we just got this 2nd bird, and I don't know if we can really handle a third. Let's see how things go before we promise anything."

So a month goes by, and 2nd bird is settling in nicely. Coworker re-ups the offer... still isn't sure if tiel or too (and my house is way too small for a too). So I say, "have him send you a picture."

And that's what he sent.

I took one glance and was like "ok, we're taking this bird today. I don't care if we have to turn right around and rehome him. We're getting him out of there immediately. "

But damn... a whole month. Here I was playing with my first bird and enjoying getting to know the second. Going to work. Walking the dogs. Sleeping in my comfy bed. Every moment of that time, while I was enjoying my happy little family, Charlie was sitting in that cramped, filthy cage with no foreseeable escape.

I could have gotten him out a month sooner.

Wow, that's terrible. You shouldn't feel bad about waiting a month though. You didn't know what situation he was in, and you wanted to make sure you could even handle another bird. Very reasonable IMO. And the important thing is that you took him and he is safe and happy now.