jmfleish
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I use the Birdie Butlers rather than the Lixit bottles and I think they are far superior. I also suggest spending the extra money for the all SS valves rather than the brass valves. For years, I've done what Saroj is doing now, I have two bottles for each bird and they get switched out about once a week and run through the top shelf of the dishwasher.
I do think that we can be too crazy about cleanliness and I don't think it does our birds any good at all. The craziest people I've ever seen seem to hang out on Carolyn Swicegood's TLC group. Some are so paranoid about cleanliness that they won't even handle their parrot until they clean their hands and forearms with anti-bacterial soap like a doctor going in for surgery. The weirdest thing that I notice about this group over and over again is how many birds end up getting sick...maybe a correlation, maybe not but it is something to think about.
As far as giardia is concerned, that isn't something that just grows in water, it has to be there in the water to begin with. I wholeheartedly agree that bowls can get scummy and when I was using them for water, they would get a new bowl for water every single day. Like someone else mentioned, I've got about a million bowls, so that wasn't a big deal. The main reason I went to bottles is because of the complete mess that my Ekkies would make of their water and they took to them so well that I just went with bottles for everyone and it works great. The difference with the bottles, especially the Birdie Butlers, is that it's self contained. Does the water get stale? I don't think so. I have a jug of water that I keep in my refrigerator that I drink water from daily and it lasts two to three weeks and the water never tastes bad from that. The birds also get this water in their bottles. This has been what's working for me for years now, so there's my two cents.
I do think that we can be too crazy about cleanliness and I don't think it does our birds any good at all. The craziest people I've ever seen seem to hang out on Carolyn Swicegood's TLC group. Some are so paranoid about cleanliness that they won't even handle their parrot until they clean their hands and forearms with anti-bacterial soap like a doctor going in for surgery. The weirdest thing that I notice about this group over and over again is how many birds end up getting sick...maybe a correlation, maybe not but it is something to think about.
As far as giardia is concerned, that isn't something that just grows in water, it has to be there in the water to begin with. I wholeheartedly agree that bowls can get scummy and when I was using them for water, they would get a new bowl for water every single day. Like someone else mentioned, I've got about a million bowls, so that wasn't a big deal. The main reason I went to bottles is because of the complete mess that my Ekkies would make of their water and they took to them so well that I just went with bottles for everyone and it works great. The difference with the bottles, especially the Birdie Butlers, is that it's self contained. Does the water get stale? I don't think so. I have a jug of water that I keep in my refrigerator that I drink water from daily and it lasts two to three weeks and the water never tastes bad from that. The birds also get this water in their bottles. This has been what's working for me for years now, so there's my two cents.