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(update) Bonnie goes back to U of Penn this week
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Just got this email from Bonnie's doctor at U of Penn....
I just got back the report Friday.
It is a little confusing, but much of the biopsy showed inflammation. Other parts showed scar tissue.
It is confusing because it still doesn't tell us what the main problem is- is it that there is a lot of scar tissue blocking off the area? The scar tissue in the area didn't seem that extensive. Is that there is inflammation of the inner layer? The biopsy did show that, but I am not sure that that by itself could account for all her signs.
I am still thinking about it, but I think we need to consider another surgery. That way we can see the whole area and maybe take many biopsies. Plus we can see if something outside the cloaca is pushing in, or if the main problem is inside the cloaca. And then maybe we can remove it.
There is some risk involved, both because of anesthesia (which she has done well on before, but this will be longer and the surgery invasive), and because of the fact that she has had surgeries before and there may be lots of scar tissue making the surgery more difficult.
On the other hand, if you think the Metacam didn't make a difference and Bonnie is still straining, I am not sure we have any other choice.
Let me know what you think and I will talk it over with the surgeon and others on the service and see if anyone else has other ideas of tests that will be helpful but not invasive.
I just got back the report Friday.
It is a little confusing, but much of the biopsy showed inflammation. Other parts showed scar tissue.
It is confusing because it still doesn't tell us what the main problem is- is it that there is a lot of scar tissue blocking off the area? The scar tissue in the area didn't seem that extensive. Is that there is inflammation of the inner layer? The biopsy did show that, but I am not sure that that by itself could account for all her signs.
I am still thinking about it, but I think we need to consider another surgery. That way we can see the whole area and maybe take many biopsies. Plus we can see if something outside the cloaca is pushing in, or if the main problem is inside the cloaca. And then maybe we can remove it.
There is some risk involved, both because of anesthesia (which she has done well on before, but this will be longer and the surgery invasive), and because of the fact that she has had surgeries before and there may be lots of scar tissue making the surgery more difficult.
On the other hand, if you think the Metacam didn't make a difference and Bonnie is still straining, I am not sure we have any other choice.
Let me know what you think and I will talk it over with the surgeon and others on the service and see if anyone else has other ideas of tests that will be helpful but not invasive.
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Leslie, poor Bonnie. I dont know what to say but just wanted to offer my support.
I am praying for her. The thing about scar tissue is that you create more trying to get rid of and smooth out what's there already.
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I am just reading this whole thread. I am so sorry to hear that Bonnie is still having issues. I pray for some relief for her and that the correct answers can be found
Oh dear. I was hoping for better results. Poor Bonnie. many hugs for you, Leslie.
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Aw Leslie that stinks that she is still having problems with going poop. I hope they can find something to help make her more comfortable. Thoughts and prayers coming your way!
I know Ginger, but last surgery was in 2006 so she was able to go for 3 years with little problems. Don't know how long she can go on the way she is now...
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Leslie, I am just catching up with this thread!
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I am so sorry the report didn't give you what you were hoping for....Have you made any decisions on what you are going to do now?
oI am so sorry the report didn't give you what you were hoping for....Have you made any decisions on what you are going to do now?
I told the doctor to discuss any other options with the surgeon, etc.....
but I know this will end in another surgery.
She is so uncomfortable...I see it and feel it. I really worry for her, whether it is just scar tissue or something else in there....I think the only way to find out for sure and make her ok is to surgically get in there.
I remember crying the other two times it happened...I was so worried for her.
But I want her quality of life with Clyde to be the best....it's one of those decisions we hate to make....
but I know this will end in another surgery.
She is so uncomfortable...I see it and feel it. I really worry for her, whether it is just scar tissue or something else in there....I think the only way to find out for sure and make her ok is to surgically get in there.
I remember crying the other two times it happened...I was so worried for her.
But I want her quality of life with Clyde to be the best....it's one of those decisions we hate to make....
Recieved an email from Dr. Fordhamm and she will speak to the surgeon this week (he was not in all last week) and try to schedule surgery for later this week. 
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