Trouble with step up training with Jenday

[SpinySpino]

As stated in the title, my jenday, Mojo, who I got about a month ago, has a bit of a complicated relationship with hands. He'll let me use my hands pet his head, he can eat or take stuff from them and doesn't have any reaction when they're put near him. The problem comes when I was trying to train him to step up. If he lands on a hand or if you make any gesture to try get him to step up on a hand, he'll go into a panic and start biting until you stop or he is put down. He was handled quite roughly in the past before I received him so I'm thinking that the hand aversion may have come from that. If possible, I would appreciate any tips to manage this or ways to ease him into the idea of stepping up. Thanks in advance!

 

[Xoetix]

Have you tried getting him to step onto a t-bar or while holding a perch?

 

[Kiwi's Dad]

These threads should help:
Clicker Training
Training Resources

 

[SpinySpino]

Have you tried getting him to step onto a t-bar or while holding a perch?

yes so far we've been training step up on rope perch and its going pretty well there at least

 

[Xoetix]

yes so far we've been training step up on rope perch and its going pretty well there at least

That’s good! From there you can just sort of baby step it to hands. You’ll get there, it just takes a lot of work and patience

 

[Pixiebeak]

you can set your hand flat on cage top or a surface. Put a treat on the other side of your hand snd get him steps on hand and over it to get treats. Do bazillion times.
Then after many times over many days. You can turn your hand sideways dtill against a fkst surface and see if he will step on it as he steps over to get treats also do so many times till it becomes Nothing to him . Then transition to holding treat snd just have him step go hand but leave hand still. After thst has been done many times yiu csn start to raise hand a little while he is on it and keep going from there.
Shaping and breaking down to little steps can hsve big pay off ! Don't rush but be fluid and adjust to his confidence.

I also took on a true hand phobic burd . She was also traumatized by tge words step up!!! Csyses her to scream snd freak out if those words were said. So I changed it to come here instead if step up

 

[SpinySpino]

you can set your hand flat on cage top or a surface. Put a treat on the other side of your hand snd get him steps on hand and over it to get treats. Do bazillion times.
Then after many times over many days. You can turn your hand sideways dtill against a fkst surface and see if he will step on it as he steps over to get treats also do so many times till it becomes Nothing to him . Then transition to holding treat snd just have him step go hand but leave hand still. After thst has been done many times yiu csn start to raise hand a little while he is on it and keep going from there.
Shaping and breaking down to little steps can hsve big pay off ! Don't rush but be fluid and adjust to his confidence.

I also took on a true hand phobic burd . She was also traumatized by tge words step up!!! Csyses her to scream snd freak out if those words were said. So I changed it to come here instead if step up

Just wanted to update to say that its working! he only puts one foot on top of my hand but that counts as huge progress honestly; Thank you!

 

[Pixiebeak]

Just wanted to update to say that its working! he only puts one foot on top of my hand but that counts as huge progress honestly; Thank you!

Woot! Keep at it@
Took me six month to rehabilitate my hand phobic quaker.

 

[Xoetix]

Woooo!!!