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Rescue Meyers draws first blood!

Otis&Ford

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Hello! I brought home a 9yr old Meyer's parrot called Rambo on Tuesday. He was originally rescued from a home where he was loved but on a very poor diet and absolutely raging with hormones. The rescuer is a bird behaviourist and immediately got his diet converted on to pellets and some veg (he's very picky apparently) and he immediately cooled down and started basic training with her. She's honestly done a great job as when I brought him home he wasn't the least bit nervous - just wanted to be able to see me on the whole drive home and show me his dance moves.
Obviously I have taken her advice on settling him in - we set up his cage, allowed him to move in to it on his own from his travel cage, and then have given him a few days there without letting him out so that he could get used to the room and to our comings and goings.
His preferred treat is walnut, so I have cut teeny tiny pieces of walnut and used these for clicker training in the cage - he can target, dance and wave already (and his rescuer trained him to recall, but I'm going to go ahead and assume that we'll need to build that trust for ourselves at some point).
I thought I was doing really well. I got a little chomp on the finger on the second day because I was handing him a little piece of walnut and he decided to give my finger a squeeze instead, but I figured that was more of a curiosity thing than a real bite. After that I was a little more careful about how I offered the walnut and just carried on with targeting from outside the cage.
He also was very keen to spend time near me - when I sat outside the cage he would shuffle down to be as close to me as possible, and today he was asking for scratches and I was able to do that without any hint of biting.
Soooooo... I decided to let him out of his cage (which I think was fine) BUT I didn't really have a good plan of how to handle that first interaction, so the I opened the door and he came straight out on to my arm (rescuer had mentioned he wasn't keen on hands and I didn't want to test that.).
...and then from there he climbed up my arm on to my shoulder and I realised I had done a very silly thing! He seemed very happy and calm, and I think that lulled me in to a false sense of security because I thought I'd just leave him there and let him relax with me for a while. Everything seemed fine, I was speaking to him a lot, then turning my head to speak to my husband, then turning to speak to Rambo again etc etc...
So I got a massive shock when I turned, through I saw him taking up the position to do a poop and said "Hello! are you going to do a poop?" and he hissed and lunged at my mouth and latched on to my bottom lip.
Oh my word, I felt like such an idiot! I just stayed still whilst he flapped and hissed and at some point he let go of my lip and chomped on my thumb instead and eventually let go of that and just flapped and hiss whilst I slowly pulled my hood over my head for protection. Anyway, I went and got a little piece of walnut and asked him for a step up on to my arm - which he did very sweetly and then stepped him down on to a perch in his cage for a second walnut piece before wobbling off to the bathroom to dab my bleeding lip and have a bit of a think.
I mostly feel like a fool because I went WAAAAAY too fast - spurred on by how sweet and friendly and curious he has been - and because I should have been far better prepared and had a plan in place for interactions.
I'd love to say 'Lesson Learned!' but I'll probably get chomped a few more times along the road as I think he's quite an emotional little man and although he is sweet and curious, he also knows that we are strangers and he can't possibly trust us yet. I have also never owned anything bigger than a cockatiel before, so the punishment for failure has never been this painful!
I feel like a real parrot owner now! LOL. Battle scars and all.
 

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That must have been scary!!! Good on you for handling it well. I think I would freak if my little greenie latched onto my lip :confused:

Wishing the best to you and Rambo :)
 

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Some people believe it is unwise to let a male bird sit on your shoulder or head.
Because the top bird sits in the highest position, and if you allow the bird to do this it is the boss not you.
Others may have different experiences, and the gender thing could also vary for different people and birds.
 

Otis&Ford

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Some people believe it is unwise to let a male bird sit on your shoulder or head.
Because the top bird sits in the highest position, and if you allow the bird to do this it is the boss not you.
Others may have different experiences, and the gender thing could also vary for different people and birds.
Yes, I think Shoulders are out for Rambo now (and Ludwig, but he’s got a napoleon complex so we knew that about him already). I just have to have a plan for how to get him off my (and other people’s) shoulder without bloodshed! I think it’s probably natural enough for them to want to sit there so I’m just going to have to wear a jousting helmet or something!!!
 

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He is very cute. Sorry that you got bit. It's so tempting to let a new bird by your face when they're being sweet. But as you realize now, being on a person's shoulder really should only be done once you have an established relationship if at all.
 

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I always appreciate it when someone post a complete story about their adventure. This allows me to walk through the narrative to see what, if anything, I would've done differently. In this story, I would've gotten bit. While I don't own a hoodie, if I ever rehome another parrot, I will own and wear a hoodie. Thanks for sharing your story. :ekkiem:
 

Otis&Ford

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I always appreciate it when someone post a complete story about their adventure. This allows me to walk through the narrative to see what, if anything, I would've done differently. In this story, I would've gotten bit. While I don't own a hoodie, if I ever rehome another parrot, I will own and wear a hoodie. Thanks for sharing your story. :ekkiem:
Had to be completely honest because I can't get advice and help if I pretend I didn't do things that I did! And, honestly, I'm still shocked by getting so munched. I didn't see it coming. I still can't figure out the trigger looking back and it's made me nervous.
He didn't get out yesterday or today because I'm super poorly with a cold and I just couldn't face trying the whole thing again. I'm going to need to be much better prepared but I'm having trouble getting my thoughts together about what the next cage free time will look like.
I've got a table top stand and I'm thinking just extending the work I currently do with target training but of the perch? Hopefully he won't just be annoyed to have a short spell on a training stand and then back in the cage! I don't have a large play stand yet, but I really have to sort something out soon. He was very happy out of his cage most of the day in the last home, but they had a dedicated bird room and I don't!
anyway, all advice welcome! I want to do a great job with this little creature. I've no intention of giving up and I want to be able to give him a great life here.
 

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I'm sorry you got bit! It does however make me thankful that Cody doesn't wish to get on shoulders and is content on my arm or lap as a bite from a macaw can do some serious damage. I've never had a meyers but a local breeder we had years ago stopped breeding them because of how much they would bite (didn't matter if they were babies, young adults, adults or seniors)
 

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I believe "clicker training" is the greatest invention since the "treat". Since you're already doing clicker training I'd click-n-treat so frequently that Rambo thinks you have unlimited treats. Each treat builds trust and strengthens your bond. It's also a great way to introduce new foods. I click-n-treat so frequently with Charlie, my Eclectus, that he knows he's getting a treat when I reach for the clicker. I'm certain Rambo would rather get a treat than give a bite.
 

Otis&Ford

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Well, that's what I've been doing. Quarter of a walnut a day available to the whole household to clicker train Rambo whenever they pass by. I'm also sitting next to his cage if I'm ever doing a sitting-still activity. He has started chilling out a little more and he has asked for head scritches from my eldest son, so he's still a friendly bird but he's just a bird that bites first and asks questions later when he's scared.
I've figured out how to clean out his cage without having to get him out and I treat every time I slide the tray in and out as I can tell it makes him nervous - already he is less bothered by this.
 

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I still can't figure out the trigger looking back and it's made me nervous.
If it makes you feel any better, I just - as in the last week - forayed into "big(ish) parrot" territory with a new-to-me Pionus (also male, also 9 y/o). I too, thought things were off to a great start and on the second day, was lunged at that left me wondering if I'd made a big mistake bringing him home.

Like you, the worst (scariest?) part was not understanding what the trigger was, because I'd surely have backed off if I'd only known something was upsetting him. We've been doing target training and taking it reaaaal slow since then, and things have been much better.

I hope things improve for you soon too, if they haven't already!
 
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