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My cockatiel doesn't stop screaming

Moryu

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Hello guys
I have two female cockatiels, sisters, they are about 14 months old and we got them from a shop when they were 3 months, so it's almost a year.
Throughout this year we let them roam around the house most of the daytime and I tried to train them as much as I could, so they learnt to fly smoothly and bonded with me well.
But there are some problems. One, when they were around 8 months old they started to show hormonal behaviours (even though I learnt that i should never pet them on their back pretty much since the day we bought them Throughout some educational content and was so careful to never do something to trigger their mating process). but this issue was periodical and since I knew I should ignore they behaviour, they eventually stopped to go in mating pose after a while. And my family are against the idea of getting another bird (a male to mate with them).
Second problem is their strong attachment to me. Since I am the one who spends most of the time with them, they consider me as their prime companion, so when we open their cage they spend most of the time around me or will call for me if they know I'm around. But if they woke up and didn't see me around, they would do their routine and behave normal till I got home.

Now we get to the main problem, recently, one of the girls started to call for me even when I wasn't at home in the morning, and she screams all day until I get home. Not only that, she is also going in mating pose multiple times a day and sometimes continues to scream even when I'm literally with them. These nonstop scream is causing so much frustration to my family (specially when I'm at work) and despite all our efforts to provide them everything they could possibly want, the screams would go on till she gets tired and sleeps. Now my family are putting pressure on me to sell them or change the screaming female with a male, but I just can't go with these ideas because I really really love both of them and the memories and the bond between us makes the separation even harder.
So I'm here to ask for any possible solutions to the problem.
And this is urgent because my family are saying they can't tolerate this noises anymore.
 

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A male may very well make as much noise or possibly more as a female, so I definitely would not go that route. How many toys do they have in their cage? Do you have a photo of their cage set up? I'm just curious how much they've got to entertain themselves.
 

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A male may very well make as much noise or possibly more as a female, so I definitely would not go that route. How many toys do they have in their cage? Do you have a photo of their cage set up? I'm just curious how much they've got to entertain themselves.
They are asleep right now so I can't share a picture right away but I'm gonna do that as soon as they wake.
But I can explain that their cage is more of a sleeping home for them right now because as I said we let them roam around the house most of the time.
As for toys, I bought them many through the year, such as swings, balls, climbing nets etc. And I noticed they like the ones they could chew on, like the wooden parts of the toys or hard threads and wires, while they show no interest in balls and plastic toys. So I provide them with thin sticks of wood (like stems of vegetables or fruits) which they grab and chew on them and also I hung some spring wires that i found they like around the places they like to sit (for example on top of one of our cabinets and around my desk) and they love these wires specially. Even nowadays my other bird plays with these toys if I'm not around and the problematic one was no different until recently.
 

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Oh and another thing I forgot to mention, this screaming behaviour almost exclusively happens in the morning to 2-3 pm hours.
Since they have a routine afternoon nap around that time, which we put them in the dark to help them sleep more peaceful.
After they wake up from the nap, the screaming and agitated behavior never happens, even if I'm not home at the time.
 

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A male may very well make as much noise or possibly more as a female, so I definitely would not go that route. How many toys do they have in their cage? Do you have a photo of their cage set up? I'm just curious how much they've got to entertain themselves.
And this is their cage
 

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Another thing that I should add is, the relationship between the sisters suddenly went down. They used to always be together and sitting by each other, scratching each other in the head and showing love, now every time I put them together, the bird with problem (her name is Hana, I will refer to her by her name from now on) attacks the other, specially when they are in cage and in their sleeping room
I am so sad that she is acting violent all of a sudden, a few weeks ago Hana was completely normal and until a few days ago she was still kind to her sister, and I think this sudden changes can't be normal
Should I give a visit to the vet or these are merely because she needs a mate?
 

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Oof, that can be hard. I'm not sure about female cockatiels, I only have one - but I know female budgies can be really territorial to other females. I would definitely separate them for the time being.

I'm sure someone with better knowledge about having multiple females will chime in!
 

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Oof, that can be hard. I'm not sure about female cockatiels, I only have one - but I know female budgies can be really territorial to other females. I would definitely separate them for the time being.

I'm sure someone with better knowledge about having multiple females will chime in!
Thanks anyway
Yeah I agree that it has something to do with territorial behaviour, but I'm not gonna separate them over this, after all, they spent their entire lives together.
I spent some time tonight with them, preventing the clash, it started roughly but at last they cuddled each other and played and shared the cage peacefully before I put them to sleep.
As I said they act much more calmly after their nap, the real problem is in the morning (which I'm at work)
 

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welcome sorry I hope this doesn’t sound rude but just because they have got on up until now as babies doesn’t mean they will as adults who have hormones
 

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Their cage is a little on small side for two birds too to stop fights or disagreements it’s best to have two food bowls two high up sleep perches so they can chose to either sleep separately or together
As hormones kick in you will she a difference in how they interact
 

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Their cage is a little on small side for two birds too to stop fights or disagreements it’s best to have two food bowls two high up sleep perches so they can chose to either sleep separately or together
As hormones kick in you will she a difference in how they interact
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There is two food bowls in their cage already and they usually sleep by the side of each other, but I can try the separation, we have another cage that I can use and see how they behave separated.
Do you have any idea about what could be the cause of the screaming? Or perhaps any possible solutions
 

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And this is their cage
My conures are extremely attached to me as well, DOESNT help that they are the loudest conures to have

you should get a foraging toy for them. Particularly the wheel one which I can send u if ur interested. It keeps them occupied for hours. Sometimes it’s better for them to work for their food. In the wild they would forage for hours before getting food, in contrast to being pets who get food all day.

a bigger cage WOHLD be good too. Flight cages suit cockatiels a lot in my experience. And a change of scenery, with more toys and things to do may help.
 

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My conures are extremely attached to me as well, DOESNT help that they are the loudest conures to have

you should get a foraging toy for them. Particularly the wheel one which I can send u if ur interested. It keeps them occupied for hours. Sometimes it’s better for them to work for their food. In the wild they would forage for hours before getting food, in contrast to being pets who get food all day.

a bigger cage WOHLD be good too. Flight cages suit cockatiels a lot in my experience. And a change of scenery, with more toys and things to do may help.
Thank you
Yes pls send me the link if you have it.
 

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I had a female cockatiel that screamed all time didn’t really matter what I did I had to rehome her she had a friend at her new home and a couple who were retired spent loads of time with her and she continued to scream there too I think once it’s started it can be hard to stop

but I would try having a set routine and lots of foraging opportunities to keep her busy
 

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I had a female cockatiel that screamed all time didn’t really matter what I did I had to rehome her she had a friend at her new home and a couple who were retired spent loads of time with her and she continued to scream there too I think once it’s started it can be hard to stop

but I would try having a set routine and lots of foraging opportunities to keep her busy
Thank you
It's sad that you had to part ways with her, I hope that my bird's condition improves so I don't have to go through the same thing.
 

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It was a good 9years ago
Thank you
It's sad that you had to part ways with her, I hope that my bird's condition improves so I don't have to go through the same thing.
and I was pregnant really poorly
 
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This cage is to small,it is to small for one bird let alone 2.
I dislike the pet industries, and how they offer these unsuitable cages.
My first parrot, I also got a cage that was way to small!

I keep my eyes out for lightly used large cages. But be sure bar spacing is ok for your size bird. It took a little time but I got great cafes cheap

Being confined into small of a cage will play a role in behavior screaming.
 

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This cage is to small,it is to small for one bird let alone 2.
I dislike the pet industries, and how they offer these unsuitable cages.
My first parrot, I also got a cage that was way to small!

I keep my eyes out for lightly used large cages. But be sure bar spacing is ok for your size bird. It took a little time but I got great cafes cheap

Being confined into small of a cage will play a role in behavior screaming.
Thank you, I might actually do it soon
I was planning to buy a larger cage for them, but the thing is, as I said before, they spend almost no time in their cage while they are awake, and the door is always open except when we put them to sleep
They usually spend most of the day around me if I'm home or just roaming around and go to some of their favourite spots when I'm not
And please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to act wise or anything, and I appreciate your help and suggestions, but the fact that they were doing just fine until a little while ago and only do this misbehaving in the morning, whether I be home or not, leads to me thinking the issue must be something else
 
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Ok, great they are out lots !
I'm re reading, and will say, do not make dark during nap. This is not natural.
 
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