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ktluvszoe

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Hi all, happy holidays!

TLDR: struggling with frequent regurgitation. What to do when it comes up during clicker training?


I “got” my lovebird Lola a clicker and some training toys for Christmas. We are on our third day of clicker training and I have some questions about regurgitation. Lola regurgitates a lot. She is my first and only bird and I’ve had her almost three years. Her diet consists of very nutritious homemade chop, Zupreem Fruit Flavor pellets, nutriberries and millet as treats, and the occasional bit of bread, cracker, new fruit, or seed. She bathes almost nightly with me, gets minimum 2 hours out of cage daily, and sleeps 10-12 hours. I don’t know her gender. I think the behavior has more to do with happiness/excitement than sexual arousal, as I make sure neither I nor my family pet anything below the neck or accept regurgitation. She often regurgitates when her favorite people approach her cage or randomly when she’s out and being interacted with/perched upon someone. Her regurgitation routine will consist of any of the following: making click sounds repeatedly, scratching beak rapidly with her foot, pushing food up from the crop and placing it on something/someone only to eat it up again, spinning and spinning, and wagging tail. She does not bite, hump, masterb8, put herself “in position”, shred papers/store them in her tail or act possessive/aggressive. I try to ignore this behavior and wait for it to pass. I was hoping clicker training would be a good way to combat this behavior. We are only on day 3 of clicker training and I’m finding that she engages in this regurgitation behavior during training sessions. We work for a MAX of 10 minutes at a time, so far only once day. What should I do when she does this? I’ve been waiting for it to pass/trying to draw her attention to something else like a favorite toy or stepping up when it happens, to then resume training when it passes.

I have been reading @BraveheartDogs clicker training classroom and watching bird tricks and parrot wizard videos. Right now we are working on touching the target consistently, coming to me from a distance, and stepping down from my shoulder onto a perch. She steps up very well and is good at flying to me, but only does it when she feels like it. What should I do about the regurgitation during training?
 

expressmailtome

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ktluvszoe

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Thank you for bumping!! Today I didn’t get any regurgitations during training but we didn’t have an “official” session. I was just working on my computer while she was out, with some of her training stuff scattered around, and if she just so happened to do something we’ve been working on and I saw it, I would click and give her a treat. My theory is that it must have something to do with excitement of having my full attention for longer periods of time.
 

triciakoontz

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The way Bird Tricks handles over stimulation while training is easy and effective. You might want to watch a bunch of their in home consultations. Basically it’s this:

1. Pay very close attention to body language. Make a list of behaviors you see when you think your bird is over stimulated. In your case, exactly what body language do you see just before regurgitating?

2. Video your training! This will help you identify all of the body language, especially helpful for identifying the more subtle behavior changes.

3. Once you know what behaviors precede regurgitation, then when you notice the very beginning of excitement/over stimulation behavior, immediately change something in the training environment. The 2=Bird Tricks trainers most often just move to the other side of the training stand. It’s wild to see how this can immediately change the parrot’s behavior and bring way down the level of excitement/stimulation as the parrot turns attention to figuring out what is happening, what has changed. It’s an easy non-punishing way to interrupt an over stimulating situation.

Anyway, that’s just a brief summary. Watch their videos. It’s great that you’ve identified the whole over stimulated process. Good training!
 
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