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Hey all, long time lurker first time poster, thanks in advance for any responses regarding some of the issues I never anticipated having.

I have one bird named Franny, she is a female ringneck (2 years old this month) and has been seemingly very disturbed and unhappy regardless of where she is in the house and what she is presented with. I'm curious is this is potentially brought on by hormones and the early stages of puberty, especially considering she's shown signs of attempting to nest and clucking. Myself and my partner have been doing our best to keep her hormones at bay and adjust her situation when problems have arose regarding mating behaviors and such. Regardless, she does a couple of persistent behaviors wherever she is around the house.
She will incessantly bite her nails and do a series of chirps and or screams while occasionally flapping in the direction of her cage, playstand, or other rooms in the house. She will do this in the direction of whatever surface she is not on/in. If she is moved to where she seems to want to go the behavior continues. If she is ignored the behavior continues until she occasionally will fly there, only to repeat the aforementioned behavior.
If she's in her cage she will writhe against the cage bars and push her head against them endlessly, occasionally she will stop and aggressively destroy the toys that are blocking her from getting to the bars she wants to writhe on. She will also ceaselessly scream while doing so, making sounds that seem like she's calling for help as if shes in pain. It's very hard to listen to, as far as I know I've done everything I can to keep her happy, healthy, and entertained.

She gets regular rotations of new toys, fresh vegetables/fruit daily, and a healthy mix of 3 types of pellets. As well as regular cage and playstand cleaning.

The only time she is content is when she is on me or my partner, and obviously she cannot be on one of us constantly. I worry that she's lost her independence and ability to self entertain that she had in spades.

I'll address the things I see most reccomended to other parrot parents here to save those reading this some time.
More sleep: she gets 12 hours daily
More baths: she is bathed daily
More Training: she will sometimes willingly train but is increasingly resistant/ uninterested regardless of treat incentive or attention given. Forcing her to continue training when her attention is fading leads to aggression.
Move cages: this has been tried but has changed nothing

Thank you all very much for reading, I hope I can make her situation better. She's very dear to me and I just want her to be happy and regain some peace at home, as its increasingly difficult to co-habitate with her and deal with the guilt of having a seemingly unhappy parrot I've attempted to work so hard to raise well and give the best circumstances possible. Though I know this is bird life at the end of the day, and we've all been there with our funny little creatures.

Here's a picture of her in all her glory.
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She's a pretty girl!! Sorry, I don't know too much about IRN, but I'm sure someone with experience will post with some ideas. Good luck!
 

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Which part of her is she rubbing against the cage bars?
Head? Wings?
It's always her head. She'll grab onto the bars and push her face into them. Its also accompanied by her trashing her feet around and holding on to the cage with her beak. It's a very odd behavior, she's done it off and on forever and I've not heard of another bird doing this, ive tried to find this on here and elsewhere and I've not seen anyone describe the same thing.
 

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When was her last checkup?

There could be absolutely nothing wrong, and I understand not wanting to spend money that feels like "a waste", but sometimes having the peace of mind that you've exhausted all possibilities is worth it.

It is very possible she is going through puberty, which the body is going to send hormones out regardless of what you do to the environment. We can't ever stop hormones completely unfortunately!
 

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Good idea!

I have been wondering if anyone else has had the experience of their birds being upset regardless of circumstance due to hormones? I assume it's because she's craving a nest. I feel like it'd be impossible to prove and I'm not sure I've seen anyone put it quite that way. Maybe someone else has had a parrot puberty / hormone season experience like that? If that's the case we just have to be patient until her hormones are done wreaking their havoc on her.
 

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My Jardine's wants to throw up on every available surface in his cage during hormone season which puts him at risk for bacterial infections and he loses weight.

So what I do (which is probably a bit controversial) is give him a cardboard box in the bottom of his cage so he can chew that and make a "nest" with it. He does that for a few weeks and then he's over it. Obviously he's not a hen so egg laying isn't a worry. I'm not sure if that would be more or less helpful for a girl!
 

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I don't have a IRN, but one of my macaws gets like that:) Not exactly the same, but similar. He is 2,5 years old right now. Hormone season for him is starting up again, and he gets restless, not wanting to do anything, but not being at peace either. I don't think it is always related to hormones with him though. Foraging and flight training does help but he is not always interested in that, and I think your girl is similar as I read she lost interest in training. It may be worth a try to train easier behaviours, reward for smaller steps? Is she food motivated? You could try shaping play/chewing behaviour and reward her for that.
Are you able to offer natural foliage? Like fresh branches? That sometimes generates a lot of interest and can keep them busy for a bit.

Only thing I didn't see you mention and that sometimes helps, she may like to go outside? That sometimes helps, even if it is in a travel cage. Doesn't make a difference for all birds, my lovebirds and budgies don't seem to particularly value going outside, but my 'bigger' birds, caiques and mini macaws, really love it.
 

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These are great ideas thank you!

It's comforting to hear another person with a very similar restless parrot experience. Thanks so much!
 

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You're very welcome, it can be so discouraging when it feels like they are unhappy/unsatisfied. I too find it comforting to read your experience! The part about wanting to go everywhere but not wanting to actually be there was a big thing for him last spring, this year he is not as big with that behaviour(but it still happens), I hope next year your girl will have eased up on it a bit too!

For foraging, a big shallow bowl(I use ikea oven dishes) filled with substrate like wood chips, and then favorite food sprinkled through helps a bit.

She is very beautiful by the way, she looks almost purple! :faint: :swoon:
 

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Totally, I really feel the pressure to do things right behavior management wise, especially considering how young she is still, she's just so impressionable. I think im rather safe to bet this behavior is mostly being caused by puberty and a hormonal stage, though some people I've spoken with seem surprised that she'd be hormonal at only 2 years old while others have said that it sounds about right.

Either way that's a great foraging idea, I'll maybe try and work in more foraging as much as she'll allow it, if the puzzle is too difficult she'll give up from time to time!
 
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