Indian Ringneck Color Mutations

[S.Fanska]

If anyone is interested in discussing color mutations, and their names? PPPLEASE talk to me...
I'm getting conflicting names, old vs new-
Such as Harlingen is actually pied???
I wish I knew of a book-

 

[Pixiebeak]

Mutation Comparisons - Silver Sage Aviaries

silversageaviaries.com

 

[S.Fanska]

I'm thinking of getting this hen...
Reported to be turquoise Edged...
What are your thoughts? She looks like a pastel turquoise up close...

 

[S.Fanska]

Thank you much for the photo references! Those are fantastic

What are the genes involved in a visual Emerald? Is a blue or green? Double fact turquoise? Something completely different?

 

[Pixiebeak]

I've no idea, I like silver sage site so I use it for the article on IRN a lot. Pretty birdie in your photo

 

[S.Fanska]

I've no idea, I like silver sage site so I use it for the article on IRN a lot. Pretty birdie in your photo

I didn't really see on like this girl on the website...
It was pretty good reference for the others though!

 

[Anfsurfer]

I didn't really see on like this girl on the website...
It was pretty good reference for the others though!

I honestly don't think "Emerald" is a mutation in itself. The mutation is Turquoise (Parblue).
The Parblue mutation limits the amount of Psitticin produced in the bird. Psitticin is the substance that provides the yellow color in the bird.

An IRN with normal psitticin production will be GREEN

An IRN with zero psitticin production will be BLUE (Green minus Yellow equals Blue)

An IRN with partial psitticin production will be TURQUOISE (Since the amount of psitticin production will vary bird to bird, some Turquoise will have more and some will have less. If the IRN has more they refer to it as an Emerald Turquoise as the color is closer to Green. If the IRN has less and the outcome color has more of a Greenish-Blue appearance they refer to it as a Turquoise Blue. Not really mutations, just further classifying the mutation for breeding, showing or whatnot)

 

[expressmailtome]

You can try this website: Psittacula Mutations .

As for books, there are two good choices that I am aware of: The Indian Ringneck Breeders Handbook by Phil Robson and Asiatic Parrots and Their Mutations by Bastiaan and Bastiaan. Just know that the second book is very, very expensive.

 

[S.Fanska]

I honestly don't think "Emerald" is a mutation in itself. The mutation is Turquoise (Parblue).
The Parblue mutation limits the amount of Psitticin produced in the bird. Psitticin is the substance that provides the yellow color in the bird.

An IRN with normal psitticin production will be GREEN

An IRN with zero psitticin production will be BLUE (Green minus Yellow equals Blue)

An IRN with partial psitticin production will be TURQUOISE (Since the amount of psitticin production will vary bird to bird, some Turquoise will have more and some will have less. If the IRN has more they refer to it as an Emerald Turquoise as the color is closer to Green. If the IRN has less and the outcome color has more of a Greenish-Blue appearance they refer to it as a Turquoise Blue. Not really mutations, just further classifying the mutation for breeding, showing or whatnot)

Curious! Turquoise is a little different and I'm still struggling to understand it. I get Turquoise blue and Turquoise green- Does Turquoise have a single and double factor?

 

[Anfsurfer]

Curious! Turquoise is a little different and I'm still struggling to understand it. I get Turquoise blue and Turquoise green- Does Turquoise have a single and double factor?

TURQUOISE is a RECESSIVE color mutation, as is BLUE. Both Parents have to carry the mutation to produce a Turquoise baby. The mutation is either VISUAL or SPLIT in a bird, it's not inherited by "Factors" carried by the parent. The mutations that inherit by "Factors" are the Autosomal Dominant mutations.

 

[JavaRN]

TURQUOISE is a RECESSIVE color mutation, as is BLUE. Both Parents have to carry the mutation to produce a Turquoise baby. The mutation is either VISUAL or SPLIT in a bird, it's not inherited by "Factors" carried by the parent. The mutations that inherit by "Factors" are the Autosomal Dominant mutations.

Wait - Isn't turquoise in IRNs co-dominant?

 

[Anfsurfer]

Wait - Isn't turquoise in IRNs co-dominant?

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner! I'm not on here very often anymore.
Turquoise is Co-Dominant with Blue only.
If you paired a GREEN IRN and a TURQUOISE IRN, you would get all GREEN SPLIT TO TURQUOISE
If you paired a BLUE IRN to a TURQUOISE IRN, you would get 50% BLUE IRNS and 50% TURQUOISE

 

[MMT]

I am new in this field having a little bit knowledge. I have a INR blue male and Cinnamon female. What will be color of babies...

 

[Anfsurfer]

I am new in this field having a little bit knowledge. I have a INR blue male and Cinnamon female. What will be color of babies...

What's the color of the female, Cinnamon is not a color mutation.

 

[MMT]

What's the color of the female, Cinnamon is not a color mutation.

Yellow

 

[Anfsurfer]

Yellow

Yellow is the result of a mutation on a Green bird. Green is Dominant. Unless the Yellow bird is split to Blue, all babies will be Green birds. All babies will be split to Blue and the boy babies will be split to Cinnamon as well. This is all I can tel you without knowing more about you birds or seeing pics of them.