• Welcome to Avian Avenue! To view our forum with less advertisments please register with us.
    Memberships are free and it will just take a moment. Click here

Immaculate adoption? Suddenly "with corvid"

mmorales8

Moving in
Joined
10/8/25
Messages
6
Hello! This forum has been so helpful in my research on how to care for a lovebird that recently took up residence in my home, unannounced, a few days ago. My children have been calling them Mango, but I feel like Lara Croft might be more accurate given this bird's movements and life choices. I think I have mostly figured out the basics- no mirror toys, no nest vibes, a blend of pellets, grains, and veggies with a little fruit/seeds, cage free of harmful plastics and metals with natural wood perches (RIP to my son's stick collection), and free flight time every day. However, I still have so many questions and concerns! I hope it's okay to drop a longer post as a newcomer.

The short of it is this:
1) Where is the line between normal behavior and "corner sitting" or too much feather fluffing
2) How to ensure free flight time is safe
3) Advice to determine whether I am in a position to care for this/any bird longterm given our environment and abilities

First off, I am brand new to birds as pets. As a kid I used to volunteer for a local bird center on (minimal) handling and leg banding and strangely have had several bird rescue encounters at home, including an american kestrel with a first flight injury, a quail, and a hummingbird that got caught in a hailstorm. In none of those situations did I need to plan for longterm care. My understanding of lovebirds is that they cannot care for themselves in the wild because they are most likely from a breeder, and I cannot simply release to find their way home. I have posted in local pet lost/found groups, pawboost, local zoo & aviary, and followed up with every lost lovebird post for 100 miles, and no one is claiming this little lightning bolt! Bird didn't know how to respond to millet, fruit, or pellets at first, and doesn't seem interested in any toys. Typically just paper shredding like it's a job. This makes me think our little vagabond escaped from a breeder who maybe didn't notice or care, or perhaps was released. That option would make me worried the bird is ill, and I'm having a hard time telling what constitutes "corner sitting" or fluffed feathers that lasts too long. I've included a picture of the fluffed feathers we see, and the bird can keep them that way for quite a few minutes, maybe up to 30 when perched. Regardless of fluff-mode, bird does perch for long periods of time, possibly hours. While the bird can fly quickly, there is some very apparent reticence to stay in flight- tends to just zoom quickly to the next perch for more sitting time. I have noticed some feathers falling, though most of those were on day 1-2. Recently, bird has been making a soft scratching sound with beak opening and closing. Sometimes, bird will rub beak/side of head against the wood perches. I would love to take to a vet, but there are few avian-specialty vets where I live and an appointment can't be made for a while. I am also between jobs, as I was laid off for some months and have another position lined up that won't begin until December. As a single mom in a country that just canceled food stamps, it's rough out here and we are *all* going without needed medical care. I am trying to decide if the bird is displaying symptoms worth surrendering to the humane society which doesn't seem to be the best place for a bird in general, or if this is normal feather fluffing and some birds just sit a lot.

Secondly, I am wondering if some birds need to be caged for their own safety. This bird flew up to perch in the skylight and didn't come down for an hour or two. I later noticed multiple small flakes of paint and inner-wall dust on the floor below. Would a bird eat a wall like it was cuttlebone? And if so, how can I prevent this at an unreachable height without traumatizing the bird? Other practical advice for free flight- does this have to always be directly supervised for hours, or do you go about your lives in between interactions? How do you manage the free pooping? And do all lovebirds need lots of flying time, or does it vary with temperament? Mine seems interested in the freedom and autonomy more than the physical activity. Then again, aren't we all :) Other advice on baby-proofing for bird safety welcome.

And then finally, supposing a family doesn't come forward, is my household a good fit in the longterm? I have a senior cat who doesn't tend to jump or climb, but can deploy this ability at least once, and that's probably all it takes. Because my cat is such a tenderino, I can also see how he might give a bird the false impression that he wouldn't hunt and have the bird comfortable in closer proximity than is safe. He typically is an indoor cat due to coyotes, but has hunted mice outside before. So far, he hasn't shown much interest in the bird, just some avoidance when chirping. I am about to start a new job that has at least 50% local travel, so my teenager could end up needing to be relied on for care, and we hopefully all know how children of any age are not neurologically developed enough to reliably care for any animal alone. I'm also not in the most financially stable situation and will certainly need months to recover from debt and to take care of everything we put on hold for lack of income. Our house is also not the most scheduled, predictable, or quiet place. There is messy art and loud friends and school instruments to practice (cello and e-drums, the worst possible choices to have to pay back for potential damage). I am curious what the average annual cost of living for a lovebird is. Or two, if that will be necessary.

The pro's are that my children are older (10 and 13) and can help be part of the flock. I have a home that is not carpeted and has outside space for a diy aviary. My cat is old and mostly sedentary, and due to the nature of my new job, we will need to maintain a fragrance and smoke/incense-free home, which is usually pretty hard to come by in southern California. I am also feeling some tempting feelings of kismet given that these birds are native to a place very close to where my children's ancestors lived prior to chattel slavery, and bird events seem to be a constant in my life. So many. When I tell you a heron stepped to get in my parked UPS truck one holiday season ! Perhaps I have neglected my calling to become a bird person for too long. I've certainly been pooped on by enough feral green macaws to be prepared for that aspect of bird parenthood.

So appreciative of any other advice or insight!

WhatsApp Image 2025-10-22 at 2.03.20 PM.jpeg WhatsApp Image 2025-10-22 at 2.03.19 PM.jpeg WhatsApp Image 2025-10-22 at 2.03.18 PM.jpeg
 

mmorales8

Moving in
Joined
10/8/25
Messages
6
Oh, and how do you get your birds back in the cage before nightfall? Mine pulled an overnight in my pothos plant and pooped all over the kitchen.
 

Sweet Louise

Rollerblading along the road
Avenue Veteran
Mayor of the Avenue
Joined
9/29/15
Messages
1,705
Real Name
Pat
Louise has a nightly tradition: a nighty nut. I put an almond in her cage and she goes in willingly. Might try a favored treat as a lure.
 

Linwood

Walking the driveway
Celebirdy of the Month
Joined
6/20/25
Messages
261
Location
North Carolina, US
Real Name
Linwood Ferrguson
I've got an amazon now, and many years ago an amazon and macaw. Both flighted (though as species perhaps less flying prone).

I can't imagine leaving them out at night, they always go in the cage and are locked in. Not so much for what happens at night, but what happens at dawn before I get up. Damage and Danger lurk in an unattended bird who wakes up hungry.

As to getting them in the cage, as above -- a habit. When first brought home I had to get her "up" and into the cage, often with side steps going through the door and starting over. After a while it was routine. Now, lots of evenings now I may be working late at my desk (her normal cage is in the same room), and she will come down off the top, go get on her sleeping perch, and kind of stare at me. Like she's saying "well, why is the light still on".

Habits take a while to form, but once formed makes managing them much easier. Or makes them managing us easier, hard to say which.
 

KiMa27

Strolling the yard
Joined
9/11/24
Messages
85
Real Name
Kirsten
Hello and kudos to you for all the research and care you're providing to this little cutie. I like your kismet idea, you certainly have had a lot of interesting bird encounters!

I am nowhere near as knowledgeable as many folks here but I know what it's like to have lots of questions and am happy to share what little I know.

Free flight time: Last year I took in 2 rescues that were fully flighted, which is a first for me (I'm older so I came from the 'clip them to keep them safe' era).
- I limit their flying area to our main room by using long curtains on rods to block off the hallway and kitchen. (It works pretty well, I just slide them open when the birds aren't out). We started out with sheets that I tacked to the top of the door frame, that works too.
- I also added a screen door to my front door as a second layer of defense just in case.
- I covered my two big mirrors in the main room with stickers on one and some colored see thru cloth on the other.
- I made sure to remove anything sharp, fragile or breakable they might land on.
- I blocked off the top/back of any shelves, cabinets, etc. that have more than 1" of space behind them (using rolled up towels).
- I put up a t-stand perch and a small play stand higher up the room to give them 'safe' areas to land and hangout. Plus you can put down papers under those which helps keep the poop contained to specific areas.
- I kept an eye out at first for anything they wanted to chew on and either removed it or covered it.

I wonder if you could tack up some see through cloth (like small mesh) in front of the skylight so you still get the light but your little one can't get up in there? That paint chewing can't be good for him. (I'd just make sure the cloth weave is small enough he can't get his toes caught in it.)

I do believe now that keeping a bird fully flighted whenever possible is worth it for their health and psychological well-being.

I don't supervise free-flight time like a hawk (pun intended :) ) but I only provide it in the evenings and weekends when either my husband or I are going to be in the room 99% of the time. If we're going to be outside or another room for more than a couple minutes, I definitely entice them inside their cage with a small treat to keep them safe.

I can't speak to the safety of having a cat with a bird as I'm allergic to cats and never had that come up.

Cost of living varies for sure depending on the health of the bird. But if this one is healthy I'm guessing the biggest cost will be good quality pellets, which are important. You can save money by making your own chop (I make mine every other week then freeze portions that I defrost one at a time) and making your own paper toys.


Not sure about the corner sitting but my birds tend to fluff up for 3 reasons: they're cold, they're content, they don't feel good. I've never had a lovebird so I don't know if the fluffing in your picture is normal or not but compared to a conure I'd guess he's content? Especially if it's limited to 30 minutes or less and his feathers look 'normal' the rest of the time.

How does the bird do now with the noise and activity in the house? If he seems unperturbed I'd guess that won't be an issue?

I know you had more questions, hope my experiences are helpful and happy to try to answer any more questions I can.
 

mmorales8

Moving in
Joined
10/8/25
Messages
6
Louise has a nightly tradition: a nighty nut. I put an almond in her cage and she goes in willingly. Might try a favored treat as a lure.
This is so cute, reminds me of hospitality staff who put little mints on people's pillows!
 

Respect

Jogging around the block
Celebirdy of the Month
Mayor of the Avenue
Avenue Spotlight Award
Joined
10/26/24
Messages
743
Location
South Coast MA, USA
When it comes to cats, the ideal situation is to have them never come in contact — just a small nick or a tiny bit of saliva can lead to a potentially fatal infection. That being said... our previous cat had ulcerative colitis and was very sleepy in her last year of life. She never approached our bird (though our bird would try to approach her, little bully). We never let the bird out with her unsupervised; but we did let him out when we were in the room and could keep an eye on him. Though, as I said; it isn't ideal, and there will always be some risk if you let them out together.

We keep our current cat (under 1y/o with high prey drive) completely separate from our bird with a door that divides the house in two. If we need to go back and forth or take the bird out for a bath, the cat is put in another room with the door closed.

Wishing you luck!
 

mmorales8

Moving in
Joined
10/8/25
Messages
6
This has helped soothe my anxiety, thank you! We have had some cooler stormy weather here that subsided, and there is less feather fluffing now that it's hot and sunny again. I'll be looking into kitchen curtains and mesh for the skylight! Those seem like good options & I'm handy enough to make it affordable.

I'm finding that I generally just wish to have a fellow bird person come observe him and see if they find his behavior normal or not. I think I'll feel much better when I'm earning income again and can get him established with a good vet.
 

mmorales8

Moving in
Joined
10/8/25
Messages
6
I'm glad to know that there are ways to manage cats and birds safely. It's still new but I think of my car doesn't show any prey drive behaviors, that maybe it's alright. I will always have to maintain a fear that my cat will figure out the cage. I had an old friend who lost a budgie that way.

 

Finchbreed

Jogging around the block
Mayor of the Avenue
Joined
5/25/25
Messages
663
Location
Midwest Coast of Western Australia
He looks fine in the pictures - as you have already observed - most likely was a bit cool for his preferences. Lovebirds tend to be teritorial, so he should be happy without another bird. You and the children will be his flock. Preventing access to kitchens (stoves and sinks - burning and drowning risks) is obviously a necessity for a new bird owner. Ditto bathrooms and WCs.
Experiment with seeds, pelletts, greens and veges. He will let you know what is yum and what is not - but remember to insist on a mix like you do with the children.
I wish you the best in birdkeeping and life, you sound like a very good person.
 
Top