Help with wing markings mutation

[Sparkles99]

Here are some close up pictures of Cloud & Ernest's wing markings. Any ideas on mutation? Cloud's are grey. Ernest's are like the colour of his body. Neither are brown or black.

@AussieBird @HemlokHex , any ideas?!

 

[AussieBird]

I can't reply properly right now, but can you tell what mutation you know they have/are?
Budgies like my LJ (Opaline Spangle) can have little to light coloured wing markings.

 

[sootling]

Here are some close up pictures of Cloud & Ernest's wing markings. Any ideas on mutation? Cloud's are grey. Ernest's are like the colour of his body. Neither are brown or black.

@AussieBird @HemlokHex , any ideas?!

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For the green one: Definitely single factor spangle, and probably also a Clearwing with a recessive dilute gene (which causes darker body color and lighter wing color).

 

[sootling]

As for the blue one, definitely single factor spangle, but the other mutations are a bit unclear.

 

[AussieBird]

I personally think they're both Opaline Spangle (they're pied too right? So it is possible I am incorrect on the Opaline, hard to tell with pieds sometimes). I dont think Ernest is Clearwing, Cloud could very well be though. There's something there making his wings grey.

 

[Sparkles99]

Yes, they’re pied. Moss wasn’t pied. I’ve never been able to see the difference between normal & opaline, even placed side by side.

I think Cloud has two dark factors & a single dominant pied. The grey is a mystery. Two of his five clutch mates’ markings were black.

I think Ernest has one dark factor. His spangle markings aren’t grey. They’re his body colour, but I don’t know why.

 

[AussieBird]

I think Ernest has one dark factor. His spangle markings aren’t grey. They’re his body colour, but I don’t know why.

Opaline can cause body colour to be mixed in the wings, you can see that in LJ's picture.

 

[AussieBird]

I think Cloud has two dark factors & a single dominant pied. The grey is a mystery. Two of his five clutch mates’ markings were black.

He's probably Clearwing, but I dont know enough about that mutation to say for sure.

Clearwing Greywing Or Dilute?

How can you tell the difference between a clearwing, greywing and a dilute budgie? Here are some of the common differences between these 3 mutations with pictures to help you identify each mutation. Look at the head and wing markings, cheek patches, body

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[Sparkles99]

Thanks, AussieBird!

 

[HemlokHex]

I say both spangle, not opaline. But I'll re check when it isn't 4am
They have fine markings, not the larger opaline markings.
I'll reappraise in morning. Gnight y'all!

 

[HemlokHex]

The blue, def spangle. Green could be spang opal... when I wake up and my eyes work, I'll look again.
Beautiful sweeties in any case