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Urgent Hello.. My cockatiel is sick

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Hello I'm new, I've been on this forum anonymously for a while lurking but now I have to join since one of my own cockatiels (Joepie) suddenly is rapidly declining and I can't call a vet in another 2 hours and the ER vet takes even longer to reach, he's vomiting, won't eat or drink, fluffed up, lethargic, what can I do to keep him stable and happy until we can call the vet!? Please I'm so worried, my other cockatiel (Ash) got a night(morning) fright just now because he scared her by uncontrolled vomiting so I instantly had to see what's going on i got covered in bird vomit while trying to calm them both down, that's least of my concerns because my bird is vomiting which was partially undigested food, he already barely ate anything besides small bits of millet. What can I do to keep him stable for the coming hours!? Sorry if I'm breaking forum rules I just worry about him so much I need help
 

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Are they in same cage? if so move joepie into a travel cage. Keep him warm 85°, quiet and hydrated. Hydration with unflavored Pedialyte 50/50 with water. You will have to syringe feed hydration in drop by drop if need.
And keep calling the ER vet.
 

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Ehm I'm from Europe and I don't know the terms you used and 85 degrees fahrenheit what is it in celcius? What is pedialyte?
 

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I did actually put him in a travel cage with heating, I'll keep an eye on the temperature too.
 

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Update, I called the ER vet they said "we don't have avian specialist but you should come anyway, the consult is 150 euros" so basically that translates to "pay us a fortune for the bare minimum, pay for your travel which is 2 hours with a sick bird" i asked "what can I do?" she said "well I don't know I'm not a bird vet" In my head I was like "what the heck, how are you a vet, you don't seem to have any concerns whatsoever" so now I'll have to wait till Monday how to keep him stable, still won't eat, vomits, does drink.
 
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Ehm I'm from Europe and I don't know the terms you used and 85 degrees fahrenheit what is it in celcius? What is pedialyte?
85 farenheit is about 30 celcius.

Pedialyte is an oral rehydration solution, usually given when someone is vomiting or had diarrhoea. It contains essential salts and minerals to help replace those lost so is preferable to plain water. You should be able to pick up sachets at a pharmacy, and you would then mix the powder with cooled, boiled water and probably dilute it 50:50 with water.

If you can't get any, the World Health Organisation suggest making an oral rehydration solution (ORS) from:
  • Six (6) level teaspoons of Sugar
  • Half (1/2) level teaspoon of Salt
  • One Litre of clean drinking or boiled water and then cooled
You may need to dilute the ORS 50:50 with water to make it suitable for birds.
 

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85 farenheit is about 30 celcius.

Pedialyte is an oral rehydration solution, usually given when someone is vomiting or had diarrhoea. It contains essential salts and minerals to help replace those lost so is preferable to plain water. You should be able to pick up sachets at a pharmacy, and you would then mix the powder with cooled, boiled water and probably dilute it 50:50 with water.

If you can't get any, the World Health Organisation suggest making an oral rehydration solution (ORS) from:
  • Six (6) level teaspoons of Sugar
  • Half (1/2) level teaspoon of Salt
  • One Litre of clean drinking or boiled water and then cooled
You may need to dilute the ORS 50:50 with water to make it suitable for birds.
Oh thank you so much! Also little update, we're going to the vet Tuesday because then I can see my trusted bird vet. we've been keeping him warm, he's doing a bit better since we finally managed to get him to eat normally for a while, since we kept him warm it somehow helped really well to stimulate his appetite, so now we keep a close eye on him and hopefully he'll stay stable. I was wondering though about the ORS, isn't sugar and salt really bad for birds, their insulin or blood sugar would go crazy or is that just a weird thing that only happens to humans..? How does it work? I'm curious.
 

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Salt and sugar are necessary in moderation. Salt and potassium are crucial for nerves to fire - there's a complicated mechanism that depends on these minerals. Sugar drives many of the processes that bodies need to keep functioning - respiration, moving oxygen, food and other stuff around the body and so on. Don't forget that our bodies go haywire if we have low blood sugar too. We should never seek to eliminate them from anyone's diet, not our own and not our birds'.

The problem is that, because they are so important and generally scarcer in nature, most animals have developed a real taste for salty, fatty and sugary food. We know these nutrient dense foods are valuable and so we seek them out. Given the choice, we'd much rather wolf down a plate of salty chips or a slice of cake rather than a plate of salad because in an ancient part of our brains, something is telling us that we'll get valuable calories and salts and sugars from this. In nature this wouldn't be a problem for us or our birds because access to these foods would be severely limited and we'd be spending considerable energy just finding them in the first place. Wild parrots fly miles each day in search of food and are very active. The problem comes in captivity where these foods are readily available and we (both humans and birds) can eat far too much of them. Our brains are telling us to eat as much of this valuable resource as we can, but we're largely too inactive and can eat far more sugar, salt and fat in one sitting than we need. I can easily purchase, prepare and consume 6000 calories in under an hour, but if I were foraging, hunting and scavenging, it would take me hours (maybe even days) to find, process and consume 6000 calories worth of food.

So, sugar, fat and salt are not bad by themselves. We run into major problems when we try to cut our sugar, salt and fat out of our diets completely. However, we do need to consume them in limited amounts. I hope that makes sense!

I would dilute the ORS - 50 per cent ORS, 50 per cent water - and only give it if he is not eating normally, is vomiting or has diarrhoea. If he is eating pellets, then he is getting salt from the pellets. Try to feed him a bit of banana for potassium..
 

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I hope your bird will be okay!
 
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