Bought 1 months old eclectus

[alex6999]

I read thread about hazard of unweaned babies(after perchase), but in my case price for 1 month old eclectus was $2500 Canadians dollars, 2 month old $3000. We bought not from breeder, we bought from strange man, I don't know how to call him, he buying eggs or newborns, feed them and than sell. At 2 month old. That is also unweaned. He train me how to feed, its not hard, but after one week of feeding I am tired of feeding 4 times per day and $500 worth it.
Eclectus boy we bought from breeder for $3500 and it's lowest possible price and he is 4 month old. Breeder gave powder to feed him, but he think that syringe is king of weapon and bite syringe.

At what age I need to start giving solid food and when can start feed 3 times per day and when 2 and 1?
She now sit in plastic box with holes
Her box all the time on top of her husband cage and he sit most of time on top of cage near box with his future wife. When to transfer her to husband cage?
Boy not aggressive, even with his friend caique, who easy bite him all the time.

When I feed her sometimes she vomit. Yes, I know about food bag on her neck. Does it means I feed to much? Most of time she vomit when I take her to hands to clean after feeding and change peepad.

 

[April]

@BrianB @melissasparrots @Matto @Mockinbirdiva @Irishj9 @Laurie @Zara @Macawnutz @MiniMacaw @Pixiebeaks
should be able to advise you on your new little one.

 

[Pixiebeaks]

Electus are more sensitive, and everything needs be to calm and quiet during feeding and they take feeding much slower than other species, go slow. They also tend to take longer to wean im thinking more near 6 months or even longer . I'm not an ekkie expert at all, and defer to any ekkie members who answer in this thread . At one time I was helping so many ekkie owners I did a lot of research and reading, but it's been awhile and my memory is getting poor..

Babies are very sensitive to changing parents ( the feeder) and you need to build up trust use a routine and same phrases , calm energy.
Babies are also very prone to crop issues, yeast overgrowth being number one , then bacteria or a combo. Even in experienced hand feeders this is a common issue, as well as over stretching, crop burns and aspiration.. it's critical to maintain the proper environmental temp and humidity, getting chilled slows their digestion and thst leads to the crop infection, formula temp is critical and you need a food thermometer no guessing and maintain the formula temp during feeding, ( keep formula in a container floating in hot water with thermometer ) to cold and it can spoil in their crop , to hot it burns them inside. Formula must be made fresh for each feeding, do not store it , it spoils quickly. Absolutely cleanliness of all feeding implements and environment. Baby birds immune system is not developed. Parents would be continuing to share protection with each feeding. Checking the crop goes down before next feeding. The formula must be made exact with the right amount of water fir their life stage and as directed on package. To wet you are displaced nutrition, to dry and they get dehydrated. Babies can get in real life threatening trouble real quick .

I highly recommend seeking out an avian certified veterinarian and getting your baby checked for crop infection . Regurgitate can be a classic sign of crop infection. I wouldn't risk it . Babies ekkies can also practice regurge very young often trying to feed their siblings. But I wouldn't risk that it galls under that, especially as the bird isn't comfortable with you yet and is stressed by feeding.

This web site goes over basics and you can search the site and might find more information. Someplace I found info on the difference in baby ekkies compared to other babies .

Psittacine Pediatrics: Housing and Feeding of Baby Parrots

Babies should be sitting on clean and dry bedding which is therefore changed at each feeding.

hari.ca

Babies really aren't my thing by choice , so much goes into this life stage and so much can go wrong . Probably everyone linked by @April is more qualified to help .

Absolutely unethical breeders want to shift off babies at this age , because it's very time consuming, and mortality goes up just before weaning, during the weaning process and just post weaning. Weaning by abundance takes time and work , the veggies need to be cubed to pea size and steamed , and good variety and some cooked whole grains . And they need a formula feeding first before you offer the new foods , their is a lot of waste and guidance and time and comfort contact showing by example. It's a heck of lot more than I'm willing to go into . But you can search weaning by abundance.
So yes the extra price from ethical breeders is well worth it as you are finding out . But this is a life andong time companion on the other side. This critical stage isn't that long compared to their life span . But it is critical because it sets them up to happy well adjusted and lessons the risk of feather destruction and behavior issues . By taking the time now , by weaning by abundance when the time comes , the extra contact time and teaching. Parrot babies are a lot like human babies
This is also worth reading

The Important Stages in the Life of a Parrot

Parrots go through several stages of development that contribute to the formation of its personality.

www.parrot-parrots.com

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Hand Fed Parrot

Hand feeding a parrot causes imprinting to human and a loss of identity for the bird.

www.parrot-parrots.com

 

[Pixiebeaks]

Different species notes

Baby Parrot Development Stages

The developmental stages among birds are as diverse as the size, color and personality of each bird species.

be.chewy.com

Except from above linked article
" Eclectus
Tiny Eclectus chicks are naked, without down, so they are vulnerable to cold and need the warmth of the hen to keep healthy, according to Laurella Desborough, an aviculturist in Florida, who specializes in Eclectus parrots. If they are being hand-reared, they need more warmth provided in the brooder than Amazon parrot or African grey parrot chicks (which have some down).

During hand-feeding, “Eclectus take their formula much slower, as they swallow it down differently than most other parrot chicks,” Desborough said. “It can take up to 10 minutes to feed one Eclectus parrot chick.”

From Saydak’s experience, hand-feeding an Eclectus chick is “like trying to feed a moving target.” That’s because of their very sensitive and uneasy disposition during the hand-rearing stage. “They need to be handled gently and fed in a quiet, secure area, or they will display an instinctive lunging behavior, which can make feeding very difficult,” Saydak said.

Another rather unique behavior in Eclectus is that “the fledged and weaned male youngsters will fly to the brooders and try to feed the feathered babies if the babies ask for food,” Desborough said. “This seems to be an instinctive behavior, because it is very strong"

 

[BrianB]

My one and only hand-fed Eclectus chick was a journey. They do not easily adapt to a change in feeders. You have to start over with a hungry chick that may not want to eat from you but is crying for food because it's hungry. Make sure the formula is appropriate for the Eclectus species. Breeders / Brokers putting unweaned babies out there for money don't always care about what they feed the birds because they are with them for a short time. The Eclectus parrot has very different nutritional requirements from other parrots. If the formula is appropriate, you're going to start with issues. As Pixiebeaks said, keep the environment calm and as clean as possible. Mix the formula exactly as instructed and keep it at the correct temperature. Let the bird take it at their speed and never try to force it on them. There is no set schedule for when you can move the chick to 3 feedings a day. Electus parrots digest food differently, so a schedule that might work for other parrots isn't going to work here. It seems that whatever is typical for other parrots isn't going to apply to the Eclectus. They are that different.

The website below has some good information on the Eclectus diet and weaning. Some of the information is outdated, but the basics about food are good. The author is in Australia, so the names of some things are different, and some foods may not be available everywhere.

Eclectus Parrots

 

[Zara]

The above post by Brian is very helpful.

When to transfer her to husband cage?

It will be at least in the year 2026. And that is IF they bond and IF they want to be housed together. They would need a very large cage.

Boy not aggressive, even with his friend caique, who easy bite him all the time.

Keep the caique away from the others or he (the caique) will end up hurt or worse.