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Albino hybridisation?

jilani

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I recently bought what is supposed to be an albino fischeri female. However, compared to the home bred personata offspring, the hen has a much darker eye Color (still red). Why could that be? Is it possible that I bought a bird that is a roseocollis hybrid? Or do albino fischeri and perosnatas have different intensity of red in their albino phenotypes?

In case it is relevant, I want to pair up the bird with a b1b2 DECino bird.
 

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It is possible that it is the lighting. I have never read anything about the intensity of the red of the eyes changing in that way based on the species. Also, there are no albino roseicollis as there are no blue peach faced lovebirds. Also, the offspring of roseicollis the eye-ring species are sterile.
 

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Are those Dutch blue lovebirds black masked lovebirds minus the yellow?
 

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no, the Dutch blue is actually a roseicollis bird. In the black masked, the blue is in the form of personata lovebirds.
 

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Is it possible that I bought a bird that is a roseocollis hybrid?
If the new bird has an eye ring, that would rule out a hybrid with a Roseicollis.
 

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If the new bird has an eye ring, that would rule out a hybrid with a Roseicollis.
Sounds simple enough, thanks! I just realised the color intensity of the eye might have something to do with age, since albino eyes do get darker as they age?
 

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It is possible that it is the lighting. I have never read anything about the intensity of the red of the eyes changing in that way based on the species. Also, there are no albino roseicollis as there are no blue peach faced lovebirds. Also, the offspring of roseicollis the eye-ring species are sterile.
There are *Blue Inos in Peachfaced Lovebirds. They are a phenotype of Blue, and not an actual Blue mutation. They look just like an Albino with Red eyes, however are actually Turquoise Inos. The International Lovebird community accepts them being referred to as *Blue as long as they are denoted with an asterisk.

I haven't bred birds in 10 years and was thinking...
I believe INO in Roceicollis is Sex-Linked, and INO in Fischeri is Recessive. So I'm not even sure if a hybridized INO of the 2 is possible?
 

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There are *Blue Inos in Peachfaced Lovebirds. They are a phenotype of Blue, and not an actual Blue mutation. They look just like an Albino with Red eyes, however are actually Turquoise Inos. The International Lovebird community accepts them being referred to as *Blue as long as they are denoted with an asterisk.

I haven't bred birds in 10 years and was thinking...
I believe INO in Roceicollis is Sex-Linked, and INO in Fischeri is Recessive. So I'm not even sure if a hybridized INO of the 2 is possible?
I understand that, but as I said, as it is not a true blue mutation, there is no albino. I have actually owned several different genetic types of "Creaminos" (double factor violet, turquoise; aqua; turquoise), and they all look slightly different. My favorite personally is the double factor violet, turquoise ino as it has a beautiful iridescence to it. None of them however are snow white as an albino fischeri or personatus is.
 

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I understand that, but as I said, as it is not a true blue mutation, there is no albino. I have actually owned several different genetic types of "Creaminos" (double factor violet, turquoise; aqua; turquoise), and they all look slightly different. My favorite personally is the double factor violet, turquoise ino as it has a beautiful iridescence to it. None of them however are snow white as an albino fischeri or personatus is.
I only made my comment because you stated there are no Albino Peachfaced. Why that's true genetically, it's not true that one can own an *Albino Peachfaced which would appear exactly as an actual Blue Ino Peachfaced would. In todays Lovebird world, that "absolute" comment requires further verification as a person could be sitting their with a pure white bird with red eyes in their hand while you are telling them it doesn't exist. A *Blue Ino Peachfaced looks nothing like a Turquoise Ino Peachfaced which is why they are classed differently, so I'm not sure why you are comparing Turquoise Inos to Blue Eyering Lovebirds. I own a pair of *Blue mutation Lovebirds and they look nothing like those mutation in a Turquoise bird. There isn't an ounce of Psittacin in them.
 
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