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A few questions for Parrotlet owners

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Looks awsome! How do you avoid the water spilling everywhere though?
I don´t go far. The bag isn´t to take Sydney out in really, I just take it incase I need it. He comes out in his harness. So he spends little time in there. I just fill a bottle cap with water and put it on the floor. It did dribble out at one point, but it´s fine, it´s only water. If I was to take him in the car for a journey, I´d probably just find a bigger lid, if it leaks a bit then so be it :) This bag is also my vet bag, but my vet is only 5 minute walk so I don´t take any food or water with me in the bag.

Another alternative is to use a rabbit bottle and poke it through the mesh externally.

There are bird bags similar to mine with perches in them.
If you are going to use it a lot, maybe invest in the celltei bag?
Celltei Birdie Pouch - A Fanny Pack protect and allow your bird to stay on your shoulder level or around your waistline
 
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You can also offer wet veggies like cucumber or fruit like grapes to help with hydration :)
 

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He comes out in his harness. So he spends little time in there
Is Sydney a parrotlet? Never though of giving my birds a harness...

I just fill a bottle cap with water and put it on the floor. It did dribble out at one point, but it´s fine, it´s only water.
Yes but if it spills, the bird can't drink anymore :(

Another alternative is to use a rabbit bottle and poke it through the mesh externally.
That's a pssibility but you'd have to make sure your bird knows how to drink from that first. I have 2 that came with my guinea pigs but no one wants to use them..

You can also offer wet veggies like cucumber or fruit like grapes to help with hydration :)
Yeah, that's only if your birds eats that stuff. Mine only accept salat. Merlin was fond of apples before but since Nova is here he doesn't touch them either. :banghead: If I had to travel with them I think I'd make breaks, fill their cup with water and give them some time to go and drink. If they don't and it is very warm, I'd spray them with water. If not warm, they can certainly manage to not drink for a couple of hours. They do when they are home.
 
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Is Sydney a parrotlet? Never though of giving my birds a harness...
No, he´s a lovebird. I think they are the smallest for harness training. I´m not 100% sure.

Yes but if it spills, the bird can't drink anymore :(
If it runs out, I fill it up again ;)

That's a pssibility but you'd have to make sure your bird knows how to drink from that first. I have 2 that came with my guinea pigs but no one wants to use them..
Yes, for sure. It is something to be practised at home first.
 

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No, he´s a lovebird. I think they are the smallest for harness training. I´m not 100% sure.

I've seen a harness for parrotlet for sale but I could never imagine how I could have that on Twitter :lol:


If it runs out, I fill it up again ;)
unless you are the driver :D
 

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Aviator states their Mini harnesses are for up to 75g; budgies, lovebirds and parrotlets. (I don´t think budgies are good candidates for harness training, but I don´t know.)I do not know how successful people are training parrotlets to use the harness... maybe it´s something to create a thread about and see if any other members do it :)

Even if you are the driver, there´s usually somewhere to pull over to check on the birds, petrol station, lay bys etc .
 

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I’ve brought my birds, including the parrotlet, up to my parents house which is a grand total of 6 to 6 and a half hours worth of driving and truly none of the birds have ever shown any stress at being in the car. They actually speak more often when we’re driving about too.

Additionally, as much as I do like Chico, he’s quite a bit crazier than my lovebirds (though I’m not sure if it’s due to the species or the individual). He’s got some very distinct triggers that will turn him instantly aggressive and can make it difficult to handle him at times. For example, he gets seriously riled up for paper towel, running water and plastic bags (I think that’s a universal parrotlet thing) which makes cleaning up after him super fun. He absolutely hates the other birds - even though they mostly leave him alone. He’s also pretty cage aggressive until the moment he crosses the door’s threshold, which makes opening the silly thing slightly challenging.

He is super cute and really quite funny. He can say exactly one thing on repeat all day (my apartment is filled with a constant chorus of « pretty bird »). He’s also pretty straightforward about communicating his displeasure, so it can be fairly easy to avoid serious bites.

It might be a bit different if you only have the one bird, but Chico is my least demanding bird. He’s quite content to return himself to his cage after about 45 mins of out time, or to hang out in the kitchen by himself and screech to my garbage can.

Overall, I think that despite that mention of « big bird in a little package » being applied to many species of smaller bird - it really hits home for parrotlets. :p
 

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Thanks again everyone, I'm less worried about the drives now.
Since I'm from Germany, I recently read into some german articles/forums about parrotlets and weirdly every single one is completely against having a single parrotlet, stating that it's animal abuse since they also live in flocks in the wild. Not sure where this huge difference comes from, but now I'm a bit uncertain. Maybe somebody here has experience with two male parrotlets together? So I could either go with a single male or two males (the egg laying problems with females are still too risky for me..) I know I would need to house them seperately, but is it also risky to let them out their cages together, compared to male/female pairs?
 
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In Norway people would tell you parrotlet are better off alone, but many breeders would only sell you a couple... My experience with one is that it went very well but I had him only for 1.5 year, he didn't seem to feel lonely.
On the other hand, I also have 2 budgies that he bugged quite much, we ended up having separate flying times but he could still hear them and they "talked" together from one room to the other.
I consiered having a second one but I couldn't fanthom the situation with 2 parrotlets bugging the budgies AND each other, and I didn't have the possibility to house all of them separately + provide separate flying times so no.
 

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Thanks again everyone, I'm less worried about the drives now.
Since I'm from Germany, I recently read into some german articles/forums about parrotlets and weirdly every single one is completely against having a single parrotlet, stating that it's animal abuse since they also live in flocks in the wild. Not sure where this huge difference comes from, but now I'm a bit uncertain. Maybe somebody here has experience with two male parrotlets together? So I could either go with a single male or two males (the egg laying problems with females are still too risky for me..) I know I would need to house them seperately, but is it also risky to let them out their cages together, compared to male/female pairs?

I have two male parrotlets. They were raised together. The breeder even started housing them together when they were little. When they were young they were best buds, though they always had separate cages. They got hours of time out on the play stand together.

They live separately now and require independent time out of their cages. The problems we had started with normal sibling rejection behaviour, see link:
Socialisation Tactics of the Spectacled Parrotlet (Forpus conspicillatus) on JSTOR


We are at a point that we need to be a little careful of them out together. Fights can be fierce and frequent...even when they seem to be getting along it can quickly change. This evening when I was cleaning their cages Picard flew into Neptune's cage. Neptune was elsewhere. Neptune saw, flew into his cage and started preening Picard, 10 seconds past... Neptune and Picard started fighting.

I love both of them and we have time to manage two, but it isn't as simple as having two parrotlets. I think Picard is in love with my human partner, Eric. So Picard is very grumpy and quick to anger with anyone else. Neptune.. just loves everyone.. he is ridiculous.. and he is always preening Picard, but Picard NEVER reciprocates. Picard just likes the free grooming.

Parrotlets aren't flocking birds like other species. They are normally a few pairs living around each other.. but it isn't a large flock of 30 individuals. It is more like 3 couples, who are obsessed and controlling of their mates. Parrotlets are successful by being intensely feisty and territorial. In the wild they will claim a whole tree for their nest and will chase all of the other birds out. Think of it.. how can such a small bird be successful in the big open world. You can live in massive flocks like budgies and have strength in numbers, you can be quiet and secretive like fig parrots so no one even sees you.. or you can be an intense little fire cracker and others won't know what to do with you.. Parrotlets have adopted the third option. Parrotlets are very independent.

As long as you are home for several hours every day and you have a very large cage compared to the bird's size, you will probably have a good relationship. If you have two parrolets you need to expect to have twice the amount of time in the event that the birds' relationships change. Let them keep their flight, give them a lot to do. They do not mind exploring and entertaining themselves.
 

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For fun and something to think about :geek::) All small parrots, all different strategies.

Keep your eye on your mate:

Be like a leaf:

Follow the crowd:
 

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For fun and something to think about :geek::) All small parrots, all different strategies.
:rofl: I was almost waiting for that fig parrot to fall off the tree!!

I think parrotlets are couples only during mating season, and quite solitary the rest of the time. Keeping them enclosed with another bird would lead to fights and injuries if not death. When my parrotlet and budgies had flying time together, the parrotlet managed to draw blood on both of them right under my nose. He was extremely quick... The other bird had no time to react and I thought they were playing nicely together until I heard the budgie scream. Parrotlets are sweet and fun, but not toward other birds...
 

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Keeping them enclosed with another bird would lead to fights and injuries if not death.
This is correct. Many people arrive home to find that one of their darlings has killed the other. I have separated mine, I let them out 2 at a time (because one is a baby) and they each have their own cage.
 

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This is correct. Many people arrive home to find that one of their darlings has killed the other. I have separated mine, I let them out 2 at a time (because one is a baby) and they each have their own cage.

Do you find your parrotlets are just obsessed with feeding babies. If Neptune sees any videos on unweaned parrotlet babies crying for food he shows deep concern and a want to feed them. Neptune is such a sweet bird. :swoon:
 

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Do you find your parrotlets are just obsessed with feeding babies. If Neptune sees any videos on unweaned parrotlet babies crying for food he shows deep concern and a want to feed them. Neptune is such a sweet bird. :swoon:
Wow that’s impressive! I have seen them preening the little one. Maybe they need to see the videos...:D
 

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Thanks again! We will stay with our decision of getting one male parrotlet, if there aren't any complications with the breeder like @Gribouille stated. Now we have to look for breeders or pet stores near us that have parrotlets:loveshower:
Are the easy to find in Germany? Here you nearly have to cross the country to get one, they are overpriced and ads are very seldom! There was a breeder in my town but I saw she sold her birds a couple of months ago, so there is no one left around here... :(
 

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@Marlienchen Please let us know how it goes and share all the pictures you can. We will warmly give tips for cage set-ups and diet :) Just let us know what other questions you have.
 
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