Formula AL Liver Care
This is a discussion on Liver disease within the Special Needs Crossing forums, part of the Avian Avenue category.
Bless you and this poor little one...I pray for her recovery!...please keep us updated!
I personally feel that taking her out of the house and transporting her somewhere is not going to be good for her. Being away 10 hours a day but giving her attention when you get home is what she needs. Sitting near a window without a draft will be best I feel. She can watch the birds and this will be more healing and calming for her. You could also leave a radio or TV on in the back ground. How would you want to be treated if you were ill? I think I would like the window with the view!
Just my thoughts.
Thank you for all your suggestions! So, now I am really confused. I spoke with someone else from the rescue a few minutes ago who said it was kidney disease, not liver disease. Now I do not know which it is. I called my vet, who said that pellets are okay for a bird with kidney disease. If it is kidney disease, that might explain the weakness. I know kidney disease can lead to a peripheral neuropathy. I am planning to pick her up on Thurs. night and let her settle in on Friday while I am at work. I am remodeling a mid century home and I just replaced all the windows with double paned glass and there is no breeze. My work will not let me download pics (blocked) but below is a link to where I would put her cage.
I have decided not to take her to work. I think it would be too stressful for both of us.
I am really worried at how my caique will take her. He has been such a loving doll. I am hoping he will see that she is weak and vulnerable and not stalk her (or me). Of course, he will never be allowed near her. It will just upset the dynamics of our little flock.
Thank you Daisy's Mom. I will look at that Avitech warmer. The bird rescue said they used that initially, but she improved so they removed it. I think it would be a good thing to have on hand anyway, so I will order it.
I wasn't going to say anything, but...I agree w/Katherine about the window, & you about leaving her at home. I would make SURE exactly what is wrong w/her (ask to see her vet report?) & if you could get the special Roudybush food for her through that (the rescue's) vet that would be great! You might not want to even let your Caique know she's there--you don't want to upset either bird (Caiques tend NOT to take kindly to other birds), & you don't want the Sun to think there is a bird in the house that wants to kill her. JMHO. So wonderful you want to do this for the Sun
Last edited by 65sunnyday; 12-20-2011 at 03:47 PM.
If it's kidney disease, then keep her either on Harrison's or Roudybush Renal Care.
My cherry headed conure, Noel (RIP), was diagnosed with liver disease from first vet and he prescribed a mixture of flax seed oil and corn oil (1:4 ratio), and baby aspirin that's been crushed and diluted. I consulted, via e-mail, with a certified a-vet from the San Francisco area, and he told me that Noel did not have liver failure, and if anything, the test results indicated kidney failure, however the uric acids were not high enough to confirm kidney failure. Having said that, I still switched Noel to the Roudybush Renal Care diet which he did do better on. I also provided black cherry juice, dandelion greens in his fresh foods, kidney-safe legumes, celery and other kidney 'happy' foods.
It was 10 years ago today that I took Noel in, but he passed away Feb 10th of last year. Eight years and a couple of months was not long enough with him. He, too, had issues like you describe in the sun. Noel couldn't fly, had a poor grip, bad eyesight, droppings were never normal or near normal, but he seemed content. Unlike the sun, he was never a hands on type of bird so any sign of affection from him was rare but highly treasured.
I will say that it's probably best not to house the sun with any other birds, especially birds that are known for bullying other species. I had hoped that my mitred conure would get along with my cherry head, but the two never got along. They were, quite literally, opposites in everything except colors!
So if you take this girl in, I wish you the best of luck!
Thanks Monica! It is sounding more and more like kidney disease. I requested copies of the vet report from the rescue. They are going to look for it.
I just called roudybush who will not dispense the renal diet without a prescription. I left a msg. with the rescue about calling the avian vet for this.
In the meantime, what can I feed her? Seeds, nuts, vegetables and fruits? It seems that the normal pellet diet would be too high in protein by itself for renal failure.
I would never house her with another bird. I will probably put her cage next to the lonely parakeet and maybe let them hang out supervised. The parakeet is desperate for a friend. I pick her up tonight. I will post pics when I do.
Last edited by rockybird; 12-22-2011 at 01:35 PM.
Is she on medicines for Kidney disease? I forget the name of it, but there is a medicine to help stop Renal disease and reverse it. When Bokka was alive, and I first got him he have kidney problems. I fed him NO SEED for almost 2 years, but fed him MOISTENED harrison pellets and tons of wet foods like produce and mashes made of oatmeal, blended pellets and blended veggies. You can tell a bird is having kidney problems when they shoot out just water from their cloaca. When I saw Bokka shooting water, I knew he had too much dry food. Good luck with her
Last edited by Bokkapooh; 12-22-2011 at 02:23 PM.
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Thanks for taking care of this baby! It will be wonderful to give her all that love and care. I agree - hope for the best, and if/when she gets better, worry about a longer-term solution then.
I would like to get my hands on people who allow a bird to end up in that state... just let me at them for a minute...
Monica--I remember seeing your videos on YouTube of Noel & your Mitred!