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Timneh African Grey Experience

Discussion in 'African Grey Alley' started by BirdGuy21, 4/23/17.

  1. sunnysmom

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    I'm glad Harley's test results are good!
     
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    Thanks, me too! I was a little worried as you never know what they could say, especially with him being 18 years old and coming from a not so hot diet.
     
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    DNA results are in and Harley is definitely a boy. His former owners said he was a boy but they didn't have a DNA test done, so wanted to find out for sure.
     
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    Congratulations on your little boy.
     
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    Congrats on your boy! I am going to get Elvis tested too.
     
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    Let us know if Elvis is a boy or girl!
     
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    Will do. I know with toos you can sometimes tell by eye color but I didn't think it applied to goffins also. I need to research it more. He certainly acts like a mischievous boy. LOL.
     
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    Wanted to update everyone on Harley's feather picking.

    It's been a long road with a lot of ups and downs. This past week was unfortunately a pretty significant down for us, with Harley picking off 95% of his new growth of feathers from the past several weeks. I took a vacation last week to stay home to use my vacation time that was maxed out for accrual. I specifically planned to have something outside the house to do everyday as to not have Harley get used to me being home with him 24/7. However this week when I went back to work must have been hard for him. He'd still been picking off small pieces here and there but Wednesday night he picked off down and grey feathers by the palmful.

    His what I describe as almost neurotic behavior has gotten significantly worse. He stands on his perch and makes a rapid figure eight motion with his head while quivering his wings and sometimes hoping from foot to foot. Picking him up and moving him doesn't make it any better, neither does ignoring it or trying to redirect his attention to toys. There are nights where he is not interested in food until right before bed. Concerned about his physical health I have been weighing him every other day. He has not lost any weight.

    I am at a lost for what to do. We have been working on target training, playing with toys, bathes every other day. It seems nothing is making the kind of significant impact that I was hoping for. We're continuing with more training and trying to redirect his behavior to toys and hoping it will pay off a little further down the road.
     
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    So sorry to hear that this is happening to your Harley. I only have limited experience with having companion birds and am in no way going to pretend to have the answers, It is comforting to know he is in such a caring home and hopefully with time and patience things improve. The only thing I am wondering...are there medications that can be given to birds that may lower anxiety and or depression that may assist with this kind of situation?
     
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    I'm so sorry Jake. Was Harley with other birds previously, do you know? Does he show any interest in your other birds? I know he was instantly very taken with you. Although I don't normally say, a bird needs a bird, I am wondering if a buddy might help him. I'm thinking for example how much better Brooke seems to be with Juliette for Ed.
     
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    I'm unsure if there are any medications that can be prescribed. I may remember reading that some birds have been prescribed extremely low dose human antidepressants, but usually in the cases of mutilators. I may be remembering that incorrectly though. It's something that has crossed my mind before but I don't have all the info yet to present it to the vet. And, I'm hesitant because I don't think my vet would go for ift if it is a viable solution.

    He was surrendered with an Umbrella Cockatoo who was also a feather picker, and a mutilator. His former home consisted of the U2 and a Cherry Headed Conure. I remember he did not like the Conure at all.

    It's funny you mention considering another bird for him. I thought of that out of the blue driving to work last Thursday morning. He doesn't like other birds approaching him but is okay to sit on the same stand with Gillian, our Eclectus for a little while. I wonder if perhaps another Grey would help him calm down or be good for him. I've been thinking that if I want to try this, maybe I can set up some meet and greets with any Greys we get into the program and see how he reacts/get him accustom to interacting with another bird his size.

    I'm very hesitant of course. But I have to be honest-it's heart breaking watching him pick his feathers off. He just snipped two new, large feathers on his back not fifteen minutes ago. I worry it's a sign of him being unhappy or something being wrong. I don't know if another Grey would help with that or make it worse. Brooke helped work miracles with Juliette, I've been thinking of them a lot in the past few days. Juliette was so cage bound she wouldn't even eat with someone too close to her.
     
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    I don't know if it would be the same but he's welcome to meet Elvis. They're probably pretty close to the same size. Although I don't know how Elvis would be either. LOL. Another Grey is probably the best thing to try. I don't think there are any other Greys right now, are there?
     
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    Thanks Michelle, I may take you up on that. I'm not sure how Harley would react either. I think another Grey would be the best option as well. From what I have been reading Greys in the wild form single species flocks, excluding all other non-Grey birds. There aren't any other Greys in the program that I am aware of. I think ideally I would like to try and introduce him to another Timneh, but they are harder to come across than the Congo's. I'm sure a CAG would work the same as a TAG, but the size difference makes me a little nervous.
     
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