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Sad Update # 362 Millow vomiting and tired
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heirofslytherin123
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So sorry for your loss
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Very sorry for your loss--what an exhausting and heart breaking ordeal.
Cyreen
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Kisses to M-Star, Peachy, Fluffy, Red and Blue, I know how birds can grieve a lost friend.
For those of you who have been following this thread, I have received the first set of results from the pathology lab.
No viral infection diagnosed - no ABV/PDD, no PBFD, no polyoma. Although further tests are being run, the major viral infections are now ruled out.
Tentative cause of death is "Amyliodosis" of the spleen.
Symptoms include:
There are numerous symptoms that are associated with this disease. The most common ones have to do with the heart, such as heart failure and arrhythmia. Also, the respiratory tract can be affected and cause hemoptysis. Usually, the spleen enlarges and sometimes ruptures.The gastrointestinal tract is usually affected and causes vomiting, hemorrhaging and diarrhea. Amyloidosis can also affect the body's motor functions and cause polyneuropathy.
It's now a search for what caused it. The vet only knows of 4 previous cases - 3 in lorikeets and 1 in a duck, all discovered on post mortem.
Fortunately we postponed the actual burial and the vet has asked if they can taken him back to get even more tissue samples to send on top of the extra tissues they gained on the day. This is what I suspected would happen which is also why I didn't go ahead and bury him on the day I brought him back for presentation to the flock.
As M-Star was his cage mate and also from the same breeder (different breeding pair), she is booked in on Monday for investigative tests of which one of them is to check for a blood parasite which could potentially cause the condition, although the vet is of the opinion it is unlikely, they want to cover every avenue.
The vet is starting to look at a problem with his immune system in the form of an auto-immune type of disorder. The theories are still coming and tests still happening and communication with lots of top vets is happening too.
So, not much of an update, but a relief that there isn't anything of a major viral nature that we need to be worried about. Still looking for answers and I have vowed to find them. I won't give up.
No viral infection diagnosed - no ABV/PDD, no PBFD, no polyoma. Although further tests are being run, the major viral infections are now ruled out.
Tentative cause of death is "Amyliodosis" of the spleen.
Symptoms include:
There are numerous symptoms that are associated with this disease. The most common ones have to do with the heart, such as heart failure and arrhythmia. Also, the respiratory tract can be affected and cause hemoptysis. Usually, the spleen enlarges and sometimes ruptures.The gastrointestinal tract is usually affected and causes vomiting, hemorrhaging and diarrhea. Amyloidosis can also affect the body's motor functions and cause polyneuropathy.
It's now a search for what caused it. The vet only knows of 4 previous cases - 3 in lorikeets and 1 in a duck, all discovered on post mortem.
Fortunately we postponed the actual burial and the vet has asked if they can taken him back to get even more tissue samples to send on top of the extra tissues they gained on the day. This is what I suspected would happen which is also why I didn't go ahead and bury him on the day I brought him back for presentation to the flock.
As M-Star was his cage mate and also from the same breeder (different breeding pair), she is booked in on Monday for investigative tests of which one of them is to check for a blood parasite which could potentially cause the condition, although the vet is of the opinion it is unlikely, they want to cover every avenue.
The vet is starting to look at a problem with his immune system in the form of an auto-immune type of disorder. The theories are still coming and tests still happening and communication with lots of top vets is happening too.
So, not much of an update, but a relief that there isn't anything of a major viral nature that we need to be worried about. Still looking for answers and I have vowed to find them. I won't give up.
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. So sorry for your loss
Could it be the fiber he ate? Or something else he ate?
Could it be the fiber he ate? Or something else he ate?
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Poor little guy went through a lot. Sorry for your loss!
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The small amount of fibres came out with the barium meal and were essentially nothing to do with the cause of the breakdown of his GI tract. Fortunately, they are as determined as we are to find out what went on.I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. So sorry for your loss
Could it be the fiber he ate? Or something else he ate?
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I'm glad it isn't viral and hopefully M Star is not affected. I didn't even know birds could get Amyliodosis. Thanks for sharing this info, JAM, as it could be helpful to one of us down the road. I know this is so hard for you right now.
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I'm so glad for you and your other birds that it wasn't viral. I've never heard of Amyliodosis. Thanks for posting the results. It gives me something to read up on later. Its so hard getting necropsy results back. On the one hand, its such a relief knowing it wasn't anything contagious, on the other, your still grieving for your bird.
I returned Millow today "on ice" the reason being so they could ensure minimal tissue erosion/damage so hopefully they can send off more tissue samples. His case is very much discussed around Aus at the moment.
M-Star also went in for tests today, they're attached. The immediate concern is ruling out a "live blood parasite" which she may well not have. The next concern is organ function.....is what happened to Millow possibly happening inside M-Star? Hopefully the blood tests will tell and they've said they're expediting the results with expectations of results by tomorrow midday.
The vet has said this is all precautionary. She has previously had PCR tests incl PBFD test which have been negative. He isn't really expecting to find anything on her but better safe than sorry.
M-Star also went in for tests today, they're attached. The immediate concern is ruling out a "live blood parasite" which she may well not have. The next concern is organ function.....is what happened to Millow possibly happening inside M-Star? Hopefully the blood tests will tell and they've said they're expediting the results with expectations of results by tomorrow midday.
The vet has said this is all precautionary. She has previously had PCR tests incl PBFD test which have been negative. He isn't really expecting to find anything on her but better safe than sorry.
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Jam,
This may be out of line, and I'm 100% NOT saying you need a new bird, but I believe PRC has two scalies needing a home, if you wanted to give them a look over.
Im so sorry youre still looking for answers, youre a great parront
This may be out of line, and I'm 100% NOT saying you need a new bird, but I believe PRC has two scalies needing a home, if you wanted to give them a look over.
Im so sorry youre still looking for answers, youre a great parront
Jam
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What an incredible, long journey you and the vet are taking. I'm so sorry it happened but I'm very grateful you are willing to pursue this to the end. Thank you for the updates.
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Thank you Jam for being so persistent in tracking down what took Millow from you. You will add greatly to the knowledge of avian disease and help others look in the right direction when their own bird becomes ill.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
I can't believe this still isn't over for you. 
But indeed, you are doing the avian world a great service by tracking this own to the end. My thoughts are still with you, your family, and flock, including poor M-Str, having to endure all the follow up tests. Please take care of yourself.
But indeed, you are doing the avian world a great service by tracking this own to the end. My thoughts are still with you, your family, and flock, including poor M-Str, having to endure all the follow up tests. Please take care of yourself.