I am not referring to the only one I know that is really OK. Tops. These are made from real foods and not heat treated. I am referring to nearly all the rest. With so many Pro Pellet people here. Who go on about what you cannot get by not feeding pellets. Please instead of just saying all other foods do not provide such and such. Show us the evidence to justify your conviction. And I do not mean the so called non biased ones PAID for by the manufactures. Independent sound evidence would actually be great. What is clear about nearly every pellet out of America is. Menandione: Toxic and banned in most countries. It may also be under a different name. Used in bird pellets as Vit K synthetic supplement. WOW! and you know that birds are thought, on a good varied diet can make enough in their own bodies without the need for this nasty. Oh! That's right! You need it if you are feeding pellets. I almost forgot. (Yes intended sarcasm). Added sugar. Added Salt. Synthetic supplements. Most with any degree of research will know that these are known to not be as good as the real deal. Vit C, as an example. Dyes. These are just crazy! Read up on all those that just have a number. One that has me stunned. Again America drags it's feet in banning this. I think 28 times it has been asked. And yet is still used. Ground up Corn. Ground up Soy. Both these have very little nutritional value, and are there as cheap fillers. There any number of other manufactured products in most pellets on the market. Something I hardly ever see these pellet diet specialists mention is Enzymes? Why is that? When these are so very important. Is it because those who promote these heat treated pellets, know there are none in the pellets! Because they were all killed off in the heating. Along with some of the goodness that may have been in the bulking agents used . These enzymes are one of the most important things we need to look at, as they help with digestion. By feeding a pellet based diet you are limiting these. Use them or loose them. This is no different to muscle tone and why flight is so important to our birds. And WHY I am so anti clipping. You see the connection? You are never going to beat a natural raw whole food diet , with some manufactured product. Based on what they knew or know, for chicken foods. To put the cat among the pigeons, so to speak. In my research on these manufactured foods. (Man I hate using the word food, when referring to pellets). It seems those who jumped, when they became all the rage, found their breeding deteriorated. Cut out the pellets and the birds bounced back. I also found reference to the facts, that smaller birds were not doing so well on these fabricated food diets. Well known are the facts that Eclectus suffer from overloading of these synthetic supplements. So why do people not think the same is happening across all other species? Often seen as Plucking, Barbering, and self mutilation. Vitamin D: Oh Yes. this is one that leaves me again stunned. As all to often the pro pellet people say your birds cannot get this without pellets or supplementation. Well I have bad news for these people. I call you out as telling lies, and misleading people. Where is your evidence? Quote: Zinny Cockatiel has laid in excess of 40 eggs over a three year period. while living in a bird room. No pellets. No added synthetic supplements, and only Low wattage FSL, which it has been shown do not give any UVB. And are there for the light spectrum mainly. I have conditioned up a good number of birds. Those that follow me, will know. I do not feed any processed foods at all. I do not feed any supplements,at all. Unless I have a bird come in and vet checks can show the need. I do feed 100% natural foods, and have huge success with bringing so many birds back to good condition and health. To the point I am now asked for help feeding real foods. Pellets and supplemental over loading is very real. It may take many years, to build up. Very hard to test for, can and does cause health issues. Hard to clear from their bodies in most cases. YES I AM FOR REAL!!! I have enough evidence to show who is correct. So please feel free to challenge the results I have on record.