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Hello! I just adopted a pair of ringnecks. The male is blue, no age info but around 9 or 10 years old and the female is a lutino who is 11 years old (banded). I have heard that many have a hard time breeding this species and others say it is easy. Any advice?
 

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Hello! I just adopted a pair of ringnecks. The male is blue, no age info but around 9 or 10 years old and the female is a lutino who is 11 years old (banded). I have heard that many have a hard time breeding this species and others say it is easy. Any advice?
I'd say it really depends on the birds you have. Any particular reason you're looking into breeding them? Looking to expand the flock, looking to sell, looking to just raise babies? Regardless of the reason, it's important to know if you feel it's worth the risks involved - raising babies can end in heartbreak even if the pair produces a clutch and the eggs hatch. Maybe first time couples do not know how to raise their babies, and if you're not 100% educated and prepared, as horrible as it is, you could have a chick die in your hands if you have to take over for the young couple.

The conditions you have and the birds you have are the biggest variables, I'd say, in breeding - proper food and setup and space can alter the chances of breeding even coming to mind in the birds, and the babies being healthy depends greatly on the diet the parents get - but also the overall health and stress level of the parents.
It's hard to say without knowing the situation the birds are in, and what the birds are like - and if they were adopted together? If they have never met, there is no guarantee they will breed just because they're male and female. If they have, there's still no guarantee - just like two humans aren't guaranteed to want to produce offspring just because they know each other and are compatible to do so.

Some things that would help the folks here see if conditions are right/conducive/healthy:

- What's their diet like? Pellets? Seeds? What brands? (this is to know if it's a good quality safe kind of food/seed mix and if it provides the nutrition they need to function/would need to rear chicks)
- What kind of cage(s?) do they have? Dimensions? Photos are good too.
- What kind of environment are they in? How many people are around them? Any other pets around that they might see? Some pets would cause potential high stress (cats, dogs, rodents) and others would likely only perk their interest (a fish tank across the room) - any other birds they can hear? Window nearby? How much sunlight do they get in a day?
- What are they like behavior and personality wise? Are they social? Do they talk together/preen/do bonding activities? Do they squabble and fight? Are they frightened when you pass by the cage? Do they panic when you reach in to replace their food/water?

Also, babies are extra sensitive - birds are sensitive critters to begin with, but take away their feathers, make them tiny and helpless, and still have developing immune systems to keep them from getting sick? The dangers are high. They're fragile and even with the best conditions, you could end up with a loss - as i stated, if you want to, it's important to know if you feel your reasons are worth taking the risks involved. As the caretaker of the birds, the babies are your responsibility.
Not to sound discouraging, please know that - I just take the topic very seriously and if you end up breeding them, I'd want to be able to say you know exactly what you're getting into, and that no one failed to warn you of anything so that you would be prepared to avoid disaster, and know how to handle it if it arises.
 

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I don't know how easy or hard they are to breed, but unless there are any splits, all the offspring will be green split blue. Males will be split lutino.


Ditto what Nissili has said.


Since they were adopted, I'd want to know if the birds are in fact healthy. Were they fed a good diet before? Is the female in good condition to be laying eggs? If you know their background and they were well cared for, then ok. If they weren't, it's probably a good idea to give them at least a year of eating a healthy diet before even considering breeding them, if that is your ultimate goal.
 

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Any advice?
Please don't breed them.
I have heard that many have a hard time breeding this species and others say it is easy.
That's exactly right because every situation is unique and circumstantial. The much bigger question here is why do you want to breed them and what are your qualifications to do so?
 

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Hi Birdie Team!
Sorry, I should have stated in the first place that I am an experienced bird breeder hobbyist and Certified Avian Specialist through a program I took in my area. I have worked and studied birds for over 20 years (hand-feeding neonate as well) and worked with penguins at the #1 zoo in the world, the Omaha Henry Doorly Zoo. It was an amazing experience! I have greencheeked conures & sun conures that are pets and we allow them to have babies occasionally to adopt out to loving homes. I keep in touch with the people that adopt them. The joy they have with their new baby is super special just like I did when I was young. There are few GC conures in my area and not many that need adopted as an older bird...I know right!?! Surprising. I have other pet birds that have been rescued due to severe hoarding and neglect cases. I do bird therapy & training with them and they are so happy and healthy now.

This pair of ringnecks was from an acquaintance who had them for 2 years, has little information from the gal before him. They were fed pellets and seed. I agreed to adopt them for #1 to give them therapy and make them a bird again instead of just being in a cage, and #2 yes, if they want to have babies in the future, I can provide a proper set up for them. I like to have balance with ALL of my birds that are paired up (many are not and just pets). They are pets first, parents second. It works well for us and the birds are very content and happy when not with a breeding box an then happy when one is placed on the cage. With all the birds I have worked with one in particular, the ringecks, I have not had much experience with so this is my opportunity to grow my avian knowledge.

I am diligently learning and have had a few live chats with people from India that have wild ones as pets. These two ringnecks are little piggies and eat all of the fresh fruits and veggies so I am very happy with their diet. I would not plan on making a breeding box for them until next summer. They probably are split to something. My main question was to anyone that has had them regarding the box type and this privacy issue they prefer and what that means. Thank you for all of your responses, this is a great place for parrot peeps to ask questions and share info! Maybe I have misunderstood the forum, I chose the breeding forum because I thought it would be for others that breed birds...not for those against breeding.
 

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Many people get into breeding for all the wrong reasons, are ill-equipped to allow their birds to breed, and the birds may not even be on a healthy diet to begin with. There's also a great big debate about whether or not there is an overpopulation of pet birds within the USA.

A lot of times, pets don't make good breeders and breeders don't make good pets.


I know that @melissasparrots has a lot of experience when it comes to breeding, but I don't think she has experience with ringnecks?


I'm trying to think of some possible ringneck breeders on board, but I'm drawing a blank... I know someone locally who breeds ringnecks, but I only just learned that she breeds them. I've not spoken to her much about her breeding birds, but I do know that she keeps them in the 32 x 21 x 35 flight cages.
 

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I don't breed ringnecks. My impression of them is that they are a little closer to their wild instincts than conures. Harder to tame and keep tame. They might make good look at pets with potential to breed. I haven't heard that ringnecks are particularly easy or difficult to breed although it does seem like a lot of successful breeders keep them as aviary birds rather than pets. That might be more due to their temperament though. Good luck with them. Try to ignore the non-breeders that butt in with their inexperienced opinion. I do see ringnecks around, but don't know of many breeders and have not seen one available for quite a while. If you decide to breed them, you might have to go the route of being overly honest with potential buyers that are interested due to their beauty. They might need a reality check about pet potential of ring necks vs. conures or cockatiels.
 

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Ohhhh they are so PRETTY!!!! If I had a ringneck, it would be a yellow one.

I am trying to think of who breeds. No one is coming to mind, although here in FL there are a LOT of baby ringnecks around. I only breed Gouldian finches, I'm no help at all. :D
 

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Hi loveyourparrot. I saw your post last night and messaged two responsible IRN breeder friends of mine for any insight. They both replied that your hen is too old to be breeding, and in the birds best interest, not to encourage her by putting a box in her cage.
Hopefully breeding wasn't the reason for adopting these beautiful birds, and you will love them and care for them.
 

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Weird....

I had heard of a female indian ringneck parakeet still breeding at the age of 31 years old...
 

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Ya weird. Especially since 31 years is past their life expectancy. Anyone breeding their hen to their death doesn't have the birds best interest in mind.
The oldest woman to give birth was 66 years old. Does that mean women should be having babies in their 60s? I asked two responsible breeders who breed beautiful healthy birds and that was their response. If you want to encourage the breeding of an older hen, that's your choice.
 

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Hi loveyourparrot. I saw your post last night and messaged two responsible IRN breeder friends of mine for any insight. They both replied that your hen is too old to be breeding, and in the birds best interest, not to encourage her by putting a box in her cage.
Hopefully breeding wasn't the reason for adopting these beautiful birds, and you will love them and care for them.
Thank you for your response. I adopted them to make them pets and so far they are doing good with our bird therapy. I can't wait for summer and allow them to enjoy themselves in the warm weather.
 

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I have 2 males, and they are such fun birds! I take mine out in the summer and mist them and they just love it. I hope to see some posts in the Ringneck section. :)
 

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Ya weird. Especially since 31 years is past their life expectancy. Anyone breeding their hen to their death doesn't have the birds best interest in mind.
The oldest woman to give birth was 66 years old. Does that mean women should be having babies in their 60s? I asked two responsible breeders who breed beautiful healthy birds and that was their response. If you want to encourage the breeding of an older hen, that's your choice.
As per some sources, oldest mother(s) was 70.... possibly even 72...

Pregnancy over age 50 - Wikipedia


What if the hen wasn't bred to death? Breeding a bird to death would be having 3+ clutches per year, every year. I recall a female cockatiel that was advertised at laying 6 clutches a year... What if the ringneck lived in an aviary? Had a great diet? And only had 1-2 clutches per year? Maybe didn't even breed every year? Would that be "to death"?


I'm just thinking that if a hen is in great health, that they can continue breeding into their teens or twenties. Heck, we have an albatross estimated to be about 66 years old (or older) now, and last year, she was still breeding!

At Age 65, Wisdom the Albatross Hatches a Healthy Chick - D-brief


I kind of feel that people who over-breed their birds have shorter breeding ages than those who don't over-breed... but I'm not in the breeding business so I can't say for sure!



Although, I don't really agree with the idea of having "breeding pets". I mean, generally speaking, it's either a pet or a breeder. It's uncommon to have both. Not all pets make great breeders and not all breeders make great pets.
 
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