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Hi. My first post here for a while. I am lucky to have a young Illiger enter my life. He is just a few months old. For now, I allow him to fly freely about the main room. He has a large cage, but he only goes there to eat and drink. I don't like to curtail his freedom, especially as he forms his personality. Unfortunately he likes chewing anything plastic, so bird-proofing his room was a major priority. Electricity cables have all been hidden in strong ducting. I keep him busy chewing soft wooden toys, which distracts him from demolishing my house! He is very agile in the air, and loves to show off. He can be quite independent, but it doesn't take long before he comes and wants a cuddle. He is just finding his voice, and gets really excited at the sound of running water, which he can hear from one room to the next. He associates this with having a shower, which he loves. I am very pleased that he will experiment with green veggies, carrot and sweet potato. I am aware how important vitamin A is. However, despite now having a small moult and replacing some of his feathers, there is still no sign of the orange markings on his crown, although he has them on the nape of his back and on his belly. Can other Illiger owners confirm that they will appear after the first yearly moult, or is this the color he is likely to remain. It isn't so important, as he is an excellent companion, no matter what color he is. Many thanks.
 

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He sounds like he’s settling in wonderful and that your doing really well with him! Sorry I don’t know about the feather colors.
 

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I'm not sure, but it could be that they come in with additional age. Red Fronts, for example, take quite a while to develop all their red/orange feathers. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will answer, but Illigers are not very common. He's look like a great little guy!!
 

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I just looked it up - young birds don't have the colorful feathers of adults; they will develop over the years. Be patient!!
 

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Hi Bob.

Fantastic photographs! I especially like the second one! Nice :D
 

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Thanks for your positive comments. He is settling in very well. He continues to have his "mad" moments when he frantically flies from perch to perch in the room. He twitches his tail sometimes when he takes off, which I think is birdie language for "follow me", although sadly nature didn't supply me with the equipment to do that. I have been owned by a few macaws in my time, but this is the first time I have had the privilege of witnessing one growing up from such a young age. He has complete freedom, plenty of company (I am there all day for him as I am retired) and he has lots of new toys and features which he adores playing with. He has become quite vocal, alhough seems to use his voice when he is happy and exhuberant. Can I ask other macaw owners, am I doing the right thing, or am I spoiling him too much? Do young macaws need some discipline and cage time? He gets very playful, very energetic, but has never bitten or nipped. He can be quite independent but always returns for a cuddle and a scratch. He is still in his first year, so his personality it still developing. What do other macaw owners think?
 

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If you're with him all day than I imagine that he's getting some "discipline" from you as he goes through his day. I think the molding you do as the 2 of you go through the day is really all the most important part of learning to live with humans. I imagine you stop him from destroying important things and tell him "no"/re-direct him when he gets too forceful with his beak? Teaching him to fly to you and to fly back to a perch or cage is a good skill for him to master as well. Do you have opportunities to introduce him to new people? My own macaw hates new people coming over at first, and I wish I'd done a better job with this aspect when she was younger (but I just don't have people over that often). I do think though, that learning to accept spending some time in his cage playing independently with his things is very important. There will be times when you need to confine him for various reasons. I'd also teach him to accept a harness, just in case you ever want/need to use one, and I'd take him on car rides to make that familiar. My own isn't crate-trained, but I really think that's also a good thing to teach. There may be a time when you really need to put him in a crate quickly and take him somewhere due to some sort of emergency. I don't think you're spoiling him, as long as you can continue to offer a similar level of attention and stimulation; sounds like he's living a very nice life right now. I'd love to see more pictures of him!! Are you in U.S.? Was it hard to find a breeder?
 

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Thanks again for your valued advice. He is very responsive to the sound of my voice. If he is in another room that isn't parrot-proofed, and goes near an electrical cable, all I need to do is say "aah aaah" and he comes running out looking guilty. He is smart. Equally if he starts chewing something he shouldn't, he takes no for an answer and stops. There have been many times that I have had to go out. Quite often I come back to find him sitting in his cage peacefully. There have been times when he has overestimated the strength of his beak when playing. I just made the same kind of annoyed sound that he makes if I am breaking the cover of a pin feather and I get too close to the shaft. I tell him he has over stepped the mark, and so does he with me. We have evolved this understanding.

I have known birds that love to carry a favourite piece of wood or trinket up to a perch to play with and chew. If they drop it ( which they usually do), they just lost interest. Sultan chases it down to the floor and actively searches until he finds it. This for me is new.

Like you, I don't have too many visitors. I would also like to get him socialised. However, the few people that have brought to the house have been well accepted. He checks them out, (male and female) then lands on them and targets their buttons, rings and shoes. He also nibbles ears and hair. After establishing contact, he gets bored and usually flies back to me where he demands a cuddle by placing his head under my chin. Sometimes he will show off to visitors by doing some of his acrobatic aerial dances. In all, he has been extremely well-behaved with the few visitors I have had.

He has limited patience to step up. He does, but if I repeat it to try and take control, he just flies off. He can read my thoughts and anticipate my actions. I think I may have some difficulty in confining him to his cage at present, even if I wanted to. For sure that time will come. There will be times when he must be caged. I also am aware than I need to get him used to the cat carrier that I have bought to transport him. I don't drive, but travel everywhere by train. When I picked him up from the breeder, (a two hour train journey involving several changes of train) he seemed quite calm in his carrier. But I must do this more often. I have also thought about a harness. I recently saw an alternative. This was a guy who had a Hahns macaw, who travelled with him on the end of an elastic cord which was attached to the bird's leg ring. The bird was seemed happy with the arrangement. If he attempted to fly off, there was no shock as the elastic absorbed the pull of the bird. I think I will try a harness first. He enjoys playing with new things. I think the trick would be to allow him to familiarise himself with the harness before I slip it over him.

I am in the UK. I took a real chance, using my gut instinct. I saw him advertised on the internet. He was advertised as a Hahns, but I wasn't born yesterday and recognised him as an Illiger. I jumped at the chance, if I am honest. I travelled to the seller's home. There were cages of small birds (finches, canaries and the like) in the back yard, but no sounds of adult macaws coming from anywhere. I surmised that, like many people in the UK, he wasn't the actual breeder, but acquired the chick and hand-fed it until it was ready to sell. His wife was obviously the person who did the actual spade-work. She was very knowleagable, very kind and obviously had a way with large birds. However the bird was very shy. When I approached the cage, he would shrink to the back. When the door was opened, he was reluctant to come out. I was told that they didn't have many visitors.

Eventually he climbed onto the cage top. I let him get used to me. When I cautiously approached the cage, he wouldn't step up, and acted very fearfully. I was really having second thoughts about buying him. I have tamed down wild birds before, but it takes time and patience, as you will know. I needed a companion. I had just lost my mother, and there was a big emotional gap in my life. I actually said to the seller that I wasn't convinced that he had been properly hand-reared and was as tame as had been advertised. At that point, he flew on to my shoulder! I think he read my thoughts and decided to make my mind up for me. It sealed the deal.

Although the wife asked me to keep in touch with progress (it was clear she loved that bird) and send photos, when I attempted to communicate later with the seller, I was ignored. Although Sultan took a week to overcome his shyness, I noticed that he sometimes has a fear of hands and fingers. I suspect that the husband used the traditional method that is used with small cage birds of grabbing them rapidly to avoid fluttering. Possibly he had done this a few times to get hold of Sultan. This would imprint the fear of hands, so common in our hand-reared avian friends. From my own experience, this will be a long term fear that will take time and trust to totally dispel.

I think I have been exceptionally lucky. My gut instinct proved right. He is shaping up to be the companion that I was hoping for, and is reacting well to the time that I have spent with him. I intend to keep this up. Having made him feel special, welcome and part of my life, I am fortunate in having the lifestyle that I can maintain this level of support. Here are some photos as you requested. bolendo1 | Flickr
 

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He's beautiful, and I don't blame you for taking him after he flew to you! Your pictures are great - I assume one of the photos is of you mother? The coastal pictures are beautiful - they actually remind me a bit of where I live, especially the one of the hotel with ship painted on the side. It looks so much like one of my favorite hotel/restaurant a bit up the coast from me. I live on the Oregon coast; the hotel is Inn at Spanish Head/Fathoms.
 

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Yes that's my mom. Unfortunately she suffered from Altzheimer's, and I took care of her for six years. She was 96 when she passed. While she could still travel, I took her to the US (where we have family) on vacation and to Portugal (where I used to work), where these photos were taken. The views are around Cabo da Roca and Cascais. She tolerated and got to love my birds over the years. Sultan is helping me greatly to cope with her loss.
 

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I started here by asking if anyone knew about the orange "coronet" feathers that most Illiger's macaws have above heir beak. In mine (just six months old when I got him), they were absent. I thought maybe I had acquired a hybrid (half Illiger, half velociraptor - you should see him crunching chicken bones to get to the marrow). However at about a year old, he is now starting to grow some orange feathers. I attach a photo.
 

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