Hormonal caiques - it's heaven!

[SandraK]

Meanwhile... View attachment 291177

Checked them this morning. One definite embryo. Two blanks, 3 undecided

Looks like those "date nights" must have been very busy!

 

[SandraK]

Who in their right mind couldn't love that baby face?

 

[Irishj9]

And the debate about sex rages on

The babys sex, not..... You know!

Apparently the back of the male caique head has a less rounded shape than the female

A gentle rounded point is visible pre feathering

This baby doesnt have that. Head is quite round at the back

So we're back to female lol

 

[SandraK]

@Irishj9 If you weren't so far away, you'd really have to worry about having fabies birdnapped! I also suspect there'd be a list of birdnappers and we'd have to take #s.

 

[Irishj9]

Lol @Sandra. My boss at work keeps baby and incubator in her private office.

She tells visitors who want a peek to be careful with HER baby lol

 

[Irishj9]

 

[SandraK]

Lol @Sandra. My boss at work keeps baby and incubator in her private office.

She tells visitors who want a peek to be careful with HER baby lol

Then I guess we'll have to take a # after your boss and the ladies in your office. The good thing is that none of us will harm Birdy, maybe spoil him much too much, but we can leave that to you to deal with since you have the experience in caiques ...

 

[Irishj9]

Fingers N Cha_Cha were bickering like an old married couple ALL DAY Saturday. Ominous egg football sounds coming from the nest.
So I lured Cha_Cha out to her travel cage and rescued the one sure fire Fertile egg. Another one ( blank I think) was chipped

All calmed down today so I put it back secretly. I really dont want to handfeed a day old chick. Too many complications.

She didnt even notice the 'extra' egg in the nest when I returned her to her cage

LOL

Watch this space

 

[WhoaNellie]

I was thinking about getting a mate for my female, but I don't want to be constantly battling their nesting instincts. Did you purposely get them to nest? It looks like you provided them with a nest box. Were they attempting this before the nest box was there or is that what triggered the egg laying?

 

[SandraK]

I was thinking about getting a mate for my female, but I don't want to be constantly battling their nesting instincts. Did you purposely get them to nest? It looks like you provided them with a nest box. Were they attempting this before the nest box was there or is that what triggered the egg laying?

If someone is feeling nesty, they'll lay eggs wherever they thinks is best and there isn't much you can really do to prevent it. If you do not want the hassles of eggs hatching into chicks, buy some fake eggs and switch out the real for the fake. Not caique, but when I'd got tiels (2 males purchased, 1 female adopted after being dumped) I didn't own a nestbox so the tiels improvised. I had a paper supermarket bag on the floor between cages w/some foraging items in it - straw fingertraps, stuff like that. The tiels formed a pair, chewed up the chewables, laid eggs and sat on them.

Don't battle, as you put it, what comes naturally. If they want to get happy, they will. Then again you might get a companion and the two may hate each other. You can't tell any more than you can with matching people. Disrupting things in their life like rearranging toys, putting in new one or moving the cage will inhibit nesting but won't necessarily stop it. If they feel secure and safe, it might lead to nesting and vice versa. One thing to note is that whenever you think you've finally figured out how to avoid nesting the birds will fool you. One of our members removed all nesting stuff but her tiels still found a dark hidden spot to nest, lay & hatch in.

 

[Irishj9]

I was thinking about getting a mate for my female, but I don't want to be constantly battling their nesting instincts. Did you purposely get them to nest? It looks like you provided them with a nest box. Were they attempting this before the nest box was there or is that what triggered the egg laying?

They need a nest box to sleep ( happily). Their natural sleeping place is a hollowed out tree trunk

All caiques are HIGHLY sexual

Good luck trying to suppress that urge. This site is full of biting caique stories for that exact reason IMHO

 

[Alien J]

fighting over who gets to feed the baby

The video is so precious! Reminds me of when TD was a baby...makes me want a baby bird....uh-oh...no more videos for me.

 

[WhoaNellie]

They need a nest box to sleep ( happily). Their natural sleeping place is a hollowed out tree trunk

All caiques are HIGHLY sexual

Good luck trying to suppress that urge. This site is full of biting caique stories for that exact reason IMHO

My female is almost three years old and I haven't had any problems with overly hormonal behavior or biting to date (although a few of my daughter's friends have been bitten pretty hard). This is my first caique, but I've had birds of various species off and on for 30+ years. If you give them a nest, it makes them WAY more likely to lay eggs and become hormonal. So...yours have always had a nest is what you're saying?

 

[WhoaNellie]

If someone is feeling nesty, they'll lay eggs wherever they thinks is best and there isn't much you can really do to prevent it. If you do not want the hassles of eggs hatching into chicks, buy some fake eggs and switch out the real for the fake. Not caique, but when I'd got tiels (2 males purchased, 1 female adopted after being dumped) I didn't own a nestbox so the tiels improvised. I had a paper supermarket bag on the floor between cages w/some foraging items in it - straw fingertraps, stuff like that. The tiels formed a pair, chewed up the chewables, laid eggs and sat on them.

Don't battle, as you put it, what comes naturally. If they want to get happy, they will. Then again you might get a companion and the two may hate each other. You can't tell any more than you can with matching people. Disrupting things in their life like rearranging toys, putting in new one or moving the cage will inhibit nesting but won't necessarily stop it. If they feel secure and safe, it might lead to nesting and vice versa. One thing to note is that whenever you think you've finally figured out how to avoid nesting the birds will fool you. One of our members removed all nesting stuff but her tiels still found a dark hidden spot to nest, lay & hatch in.

Cockatiels are known for this behavior, though.

I'm aware that some hens will lay eggs even if they have no mate or nest. There are no seasons in our houses like there would be in the wild that would determine when the appropriate time to nest would be. It's not good for them to constantly lay eggs.

I'm asking for the experiences of people who have had a single caique and then gotten them a mate. If no nest box is provided, have they laid eggs and tried to nest? What about if they are kept in separate cages except for playtime?

 

[Irishj9]

It's a joke right?. Take a human male and put him in a separate room and he wo t think about sex?

Again. Caiques, in season, are HIGHLY SEXUAL

Porn star sexual
In your face all day sexual
In front of the archbishop sexual

Separate rooms is a joke

 

[WhoaNellie]

It's a joke right?. Take a human male and put him in a separate room and he wo t think about sex?

Again. Caiques, in season, are HIGHLY SEXUAL

Porn star sexual
In your face all day sexual
In front of the archbishop sexual

Separate rooms is a joke

Yes, I heard your opinion. This hasn't been my experience with my caique, nor have I heard it from anyone else I've talked to, but I don't provide nest boxes to my birds and I'm careful about the amount of light they get. I'm asking for other's (who don't provide nest boxes) experiences, too.

 

[Irishj9]

Ah yes my opinion.
No. My experience over years.
Just search this forum for aggressive or biting caiques. 99% of examples are birds kept singly. Without a mate, never mind a nestbox!
Look at the pix of wounds inflicted on Human carers.

In any case I think your enquiry needs a separate thread
@admin

 

[WhoaNellie]

Opinion, experience, it's all the same (i.e. anecdotal). My experience is exactly the opposite. That's why was asking for other's input, too.

Clearly, you can't tolerate someone disagreeing with you, so go ahead and disregard my question. You're right, it would probably be better to put it on it's own separate thread.

 

[WhoaNellie]

Also, from your own descriptions of your birds, it sounds like yours bite a lot.

I have a pair of 5 year old caiques on eggs. In my front room...

And it's a dream. Apart from night time bickering after the first egg, they've turned into a dream bird.

They pop out of the breeding cage and eat on the playstand, then quietly go back to their nest.

They've stopped chasing me round the house.

They're almost silent.
They're running at about 20% normal speed
They don't bite or lunge.
They don't eat the furniture.
They have no interest in who is outside.
They don't knock things on the floor to hear them crash and break
They could care less about my cellphone.

Apart from the round the clock birdie sex in my front room, I'm living the dream.

If you had sex on demand every 15 minutes, you'd be subdued too lol.

Caique hormones are not the issue we so often hear about.

It's caique sexual frustration!

And it sounds like you have a lot of trouble with your caiques being aggressive. Whatever you're doing is making them overly hormonal, I would guess.

 

[Sweet Louise]

Updated pictures?

is this one of the parents?